The Death of Europe, with Douglas Murray
The Death Of Europe, With Douglas Murray
- Magma Lava • 4 minutes ago • edited
You just shiver when Douglas Murray says: "ADULTS HAVE LEFT THE ROOM" ...
No wonder when a real adult begins feeling WEARINESS under these conditions when he or she gets aware of this madness that ruins and gangrenes our Civilization ... - Andrew Baldwin • a year ago • edited
No-one has written a book so far called “The Strange Death of Canada” but much the same critique that Murray makes about Europe could be made about contemporary Canada. In a sense, it may be even worse here. The world’s most famous blackface hobbyist, Justin Trudeau, decided to celebrate Canada’s 150th anniversary as a nation by going after a couple of our Fathers of Confederation, Hector Langevin and our founding Prime Minister, John A. Macdonald, allegedly because of their racist attitudes towards Indigenous Canadians. (Macdonald had the regrettable view of most white Canadians of the time that it was better to assimilate Indigenous Canadians, but he fully supported giving voting rights to Indigenous Canadians who satisified the ownership of property requirement. He was in no way a racist.) Our immigration minister is a creepy Somali immigrant, who denounced anyone who criticized the flood of illegal immigrants walking across our borders after Trudeau’s imbecilic “Welcome to Canada” tweet at the start of 2017, disproportionately African and Muslim, as racists. Immigration has been ratcheted way up by our social engineering government, with the obvious object of deconstructing Canadian society as rapidly as possible. Meanwhile, the government is showing increasing interest in fighting so-called Fake News, and legislating against what it perceives as Islamophobia, so any dissenting voices can be silenced. We are no longer a country with one of the oldest, most successful democratic constitutions in the world, in the government’s mind. Instead we are a horrible people who committed genocide against our Indigenous peoples, incarcerated Japanese people during the Second World War and so forth. Every country has its episodes that it should be ashamed of, but ours hardly define what Canada is about, and the concentration on them only diminishes our will to defend our own national interests. It’s sad, but it is something that can still be reversed. I wish that Canada had more people with the same courage and insight as Douglas Murray.
- Robert Jensen Andrew Baldwin • a year ago
You are correct, but Europe has 20 TIMES the population of Canada. And Europe has far greater impact on the rest of world, both economically and military-wise, than Canada.
Therefore, it's far more critical to write a book about the death of Europe, than one on Canada.
Don't worry, once Canada's death draws closer, I'm sure some authors will take note.- cuniverse Robert Jensen • 4 months ago
has any one yet written on the "death of the Algonquian, and the Anishinaabe nations". All of the universe nature appears to function cyclicanly , careful what you put into it for it shall return.
- MadeInEngland Andrew Baldwin • a year ago
Well you had Mark Stein till you hounded him out, although England could claim him too.
- Judy Anderson MadeInEngland • a year ago
Mark Steyn is Canadian, though he lived in England as a child: that's how he acquired the English accent. He now lives in the USA. (I miss him! But, hey, I subscribe to his blog and see him on Fox!) Canada's full of ignoramuses: our schools are SJW indoctrination centres. Politically, we have SIX parties: one, the Bloc Quebecois, wants Quebec to separate, three are far left, the Conservatives are rather like RINOs (with the media and all the "woke" baying for their blood), and a very new party is actually conservative. Our intellectual and moral pygmy of a PM might still be PM after the election. That's how brainwashed so many Canadians are: many immigrant blocs have been brought in specifically for their votes. Then there's the $6 million that Trudeau recently gave to the media: really! The deck is stacked.
- Brandon Andreski Judy Anderson • a year ago
The new conflict is social not violent. It might get there, I have no Idea. I hope it doesn't honestly. You have those wackjobs claiming that civil war will break out in some form or another but in my opinion if awe get to such a point we have already failed to preserve our values as they are. It is a fight that we have to keep up here in the USA because it seams to be the only place that these things can be fought to some degree of success. Not that we are winning by any stretch of the imagination but we are at least still in the ring. I don't blame a lot of Europeans or Canadians for giving in though. The laws are not on your side. You have little in the way of a reasonable defense in the case of preserving your rights or cultures. But those of you that do stand up in that storm are brave and should not be discouraged.
- CROSSHAIRS Brandon Andreski • a year ago
Unfortunately, Brandon those of us who see a civil war as it were on the horizon arent wack jobs. We are those who get dropped in remote places at 0230 while you sleep, we alter borders,insurgencies and governments all before your latte at 0800. Next, you travel passport doesnt allow you to see true evil in the eye like many of us have. The insurgence of philosophical mental ballet with terms like socialism and progressive policy are veiled threats to the whole premise of you having pure freedom to own property, worship as you choose, hold your own opinion, build and run a business for profit without government oversight or influence. Sorry my friend, me and my former team will be the first on the line ready to draw blood to preserve the very literal words of this constitution we pledged to defend from enemies both foreign AND DOMESTIC.
- CROSSHAIRS Guest • a year ago
Wish I were 13 again...I'd sleep better. And call of duty is way past my video game talents. I prefer asteroid. And I wasn't a marine, Im former SFSO and was in Kunduz while you were still jerking to the Fredricks of Hollywood catalogue. Unlike S.E.A.L. teams, we stay for the long haul. I witnessed what happens when a superpower becomes desperate in the face of opposition. Go back to YOUR games little one and let the Adults try to fix this wreck of a mess you made of it.
- HappyRick CROSSHAIRS • 10 months ago • edited
Just a friendly question wondering what the acronym "SFSO" stands for, as I couldn't find any information on the Net except for:
SFSO Swiss Federal Statistical Office
SFSO San Francisco Symphony Orchestra (San Francisco, CA, USA)
SFSO Senior Financial Services Officer
SFSO Save Frequently Save Often
SFSO Sterile Fire Support Overlay
SFSO Starfleet Special Operations Xommand (Star Trek, science fiction)
SFSO Sun Flower Seed OilAll the best,
Rick- gestet HappyRick • 10 months ago
It's likely Sterile Fire Support Overlay but I also couldn't find definitive info on this either.
The closest info I could find that is remotely military-wise info was from an NGO site here: https://www.armystudyguide....
- éva németh Brandon Andreski • 5 months ago
Poland and Hungary did not give in! We have call for God and use his power, no weapon formed against us will survive!
- Steven Deitrich Carlo Mare • 9 months ago
You hit that nail straight on ! The PROBLEM is this thing called LIBERAL . The only true definition of that is : Anti - Establishment . It's a mental illness that prevents them from understanding common sence logic ! They are destroying civilization .
- Vanessa Fick Nortman Steven Deitrich • 5 months ago
Destroying to build what I wonder....
its insane and scary to think what the end game is here.
- Saad Aziz Vanessa Fick Nortman • a month ago
They will eat us, then they will eat themselves. And the elites will resurface from their bunkers.
- Forrest Pugh Vanessa Fick Nortman • a month ago
They are useful idiots being steered to destroy so that those who are capable and willing to take control over the world can do so... elites, old money, what-have-you - they play a long game and all the secret societies and family histories are still in mind. They used to rule - they WERE the aristocracy. They wish to be that once again.
- TOM DOUGLAS Andrew Baldwin • a year ago • edited
Have you ever read 'The Unbearable Lightness of Being Canadian'?...Richard Gwynne wrote that more than 30 years ago....Part of the general thesis being not standing up for the culture, history and namely the institutions bred from that history leads us to an ephemaral state of the most post modernist nothingness imaginable. A nation with no identity, and value system....the seeming lack of a framework / infrastructure or in the case of Murray, the hardware necessary to form the backbone of a nation state. Mr Francis Fukuyama's precient analysis of the rise and victory of liberalism at the end of the Cold War...the developed and final stage....the ideological heritage of mankind...Hegel's prediction of the 'common marketization of international relations for the world reaching homeostatis would come to pass. However, as we were living the horror of the Yugoslavian Civil War in the late 1990's we still obviously noticed that an unreconciled historical narrative, ethnicity and religion still mattered. Therefore, Fukuyama was right to predict that identity politics and the desire of recognitiıon to be a key threat to Liberalism. I didn't understand that totally yet in how that related to developed Western democracy in 1995, but now I obviously see that identity, culture, values, and history should not be cast aside and be made shameful by confusing the fruits of Liberalism, that is to say the software, as the sole basis of that framework and certainly not the mold that everything else passes through.....Have I got that right?....Having a long standing history, culture and national identity still matters!!!....having lived in Toronto in the heyday of optomism in the 80's and 90's, I was a true believer in the cultural mosaic...I only discovered slowly over time that not every member of the new Canadian migrant class was interested in assimilation. Meaning that they were not prepared to subordinate and shed their past to accept and absorb and respect the foundations on which this great country Canada were built upon....Probably the waves of European immigrants could more easily assimilate and forge a Canadian ıdentity, but the jury is definately out about some Carribean, African, Muslim and Central Asian immigration. Lose our Western European roots and those institutions forged from our centuries old history, and we might as well be absorbed and melted down into the melting pot of the greater United States of America. E PLURIBUS UNUM is starting to sound like the wiser policy framework for strengthening our very vulnerable country.
- TOM DOUGLAS Guest • a year ago
before you talk about an enymie maybe you should learn to spell it right...E N E M Y
- Alex Trosch Andrew Baldwin • a year ago
Main difference is the space that is available in Canada, essentially keeping people apart and NOT together.
- The State Alex Trosch • a year ago
Not true. 95% of us live within 200 kilometers of the US border. Immigrants don't go to Wawa. They go to where others of their own kind are. Birds of a feather flock together,
- mg3 Andrew Baldwin • 10 months ago
Post senator Hillary Clinton; she became the CEO of the Lippo Group. Word search: Hillary Clinton and Lippo Group. Ahhhhh, the truth is very fashionable, this day. William Clinton mastered the art of smiling to your face while reaching around to steal your wallet. It is, as it is.
- The State Andrew Baldwin • a year ago
True enough. If we only ever criticize white people for being racist.....that's racist.
- Rob Hewitt Andrew Baldwin • 6 months ago
The founding fathers of Canada were respectful God fearing people who observed the laws of God our Creator. Modern day Canada is not a respectful God fearing nation any longer and you are going to be over run by your enemy. You have rejected God and His truth. Trudeau is a tool for Satan to destabilize your country and bring chaos and suffering to the Canadian people.
- Mark Fleischman • a year ago
So very many similarities to what is trying to be shoved down the throats of us here in America. Academia, the media and left wing politicians all trying to take the USA into obscurity by the same means...it is shocking.
- crystlefire68 Mark Fleischman • a year ago
I agree Mark but not really stupid. The globalists have tried to be the POWER over the world for some time now starting with obama. They already have S. America and Africa and NOW Europe. They are trying their damnedest to get the USA next by destroying our borders and dividing this country! If it wasn't for President Trump, they might have succeeded! Soro's needs to die already. He is behind at least half of this garbage. Soro's is the protege of the devil himself. Extremely evil and able to manipulate the LEFT like his puppets. The demonrats care more about money then any republican EVER has! THAT'S why they follow Soro's like the rabid dogs they are!
- panait ciprian Mark Fleischman • 10 months ago
well the americans started this hit storm after all . They were not only the first to give women voting rights but they also imposed this change on other nations.
- Nashvillain • a year ago
Hey Peter, you don't have to apologize in every other sentence that your audience is mostly American. Americans aren't as stupid as you may think.
- tpkatsa Nashvillain • 10 months ago
I don't think Peter thinks Americans are stupid, but having European friends and having been to Europe, there are certain things that Americans don't apprehend immediately about the European mindset. I found the conversation to be supremely enlightening.
- Taterblade Nashvillain • a year ago
Americans are stupider than Europeans, which are pretty damn stupid. Says Murray. Don't convince me I'm wrong. Don't convince Murray. Convince them.
- crystlefire68 Taterblade • a year ago
LOL..GIVE me "stupider" Americans any time since the USA are the POWER country and we live pretty damn GREAT in this stupider country!! Funny how stupid now means opposite of what it used to mean. THAT is the LEFT for yah!
- Felice Taterblade • a year ago
Studies I've seen show both the EU and America at an average IQ of almost exactly 98, both using the same scale that was adjusted to make the worldwide average 100. We're both a little stupider than the southeast Asian people, so we don't quite make the average, which is not surprising, since most Americans are genetically European.
- anon Felice • a year ago
Western countries IQ includes non-white migrants. Japan and Korea are ethnically pure and their IQ scores are purely from their own racial group. If you divide the US IQ on race into white, hispanic and black, you'll see a different picture emerge. The difference in IQ between white European and East Asian races is much smaller than the difference between white Europeans and Africans and Arabs
- Kevin Morrison anon • 10 months ago
Ethnicity has NOTHING to do with it! Its all how we are raised that makes us who we are and it just so happens that those from the Orient tend to be more nurturing of their children than western civilization. We lost all that when we all let our government raise our kids!
- Esther Sch The Uncivil Servant • 2 months ago
Likely both nurturing & discipline contribute to IQ. As long as discipline is not imposed in harmful ways.
- Esther Sch Kevin Morrison • 2 months ago
Agree that ethnicity has nothing to do with it. If the givens are similar, such as quality of nurturing, education, even such things as nutrition, information, etc., IQ is comparable. But since variations exist within countries & of course globally, the scores differ.
Furthermore, the choice of subtests, which make up the final IQ score, reflects the value system of the societies creating the tests. But these subtests may not represent certain groups of people, while important aspects of intelligence, present in other societies, may be missing in them.
- witenitenz Kevin Morrison • 4 months ago
Sorry, you're wrong. That's more "liberal speak" I'm afraid as it is not backed up by a shred of sound scientific evidence. On the contrary, studies were done many decades ago, and have been repeated a number of times since then, with the same (repeatable) results that clearly demonstrate that while nurture does play a small part, the significant contributor to IQ is ethnicity.
From an engineering perspective it makes perfect sense too. Consider using 2 computers, one from 20 years ago, and one from today. IF you load the same software on both of them (if you even can) the one you put together today is going to be significantly faster and more stable than the 20 year old technology. However if I take the new computer and give it a dirty or disruptive power supply (aka bad nurturing) then it is going to drop to the level of performance of the 20 year old machine, or worse. This does not demonstrate that therefore the two computers are identical in processing capability, because when you compare apples with apples, and provide both machines the same good clean electrical supply, the one proves to be vastly superior in every way. The same goes for human beings, where when nurturing levels of the same degree are applied or identified, certain ethnicities are superior in intellect, IQ, creativity, reasoning and logical deduction. That's not racism, that is simply science teaching us a cold hard truth.
- Randolph Perkins Kevin Morrison • 8 months ago
Hello. Great discussion! I am curious: in what ways would you argue that the government raises children in the United States and the West? And how does that contrast with countries in 'the Orient' (education, day care, etc.)?
- Felice anon • a year ago
You'd have to divide it into a lot more than white, hispanic, and black. Can't speak for the eastern seaboard, but the western seaboard has a massive population of peoples from southern and southeast asia, and that covers quite a few disparate genetic groups. Polynesia too.
Plus, there are different groups of "white people". A slavic white person is descended from people who evolved over time with different evolutionary pressures than, say, an anglo white person, or a jewish white person. Heck, a lot of people are really inconsistent about what "white" means, sometimes saying that someone who appears latinx (for example) is white simply because they're *not* black, other times choosing to call the same person a "person of color" rather than white, simply because that suits their message better at the moment.
Also remember the native Americans scattered across the continent.
Personally I've yet to see a decently-executed IQ study at the "genetic group" level, where enough of the confounding factors have been accounted for, and where there's been no apparent bias involved in initiating the study. Also, decent sample sizes can usually only come from things like standardized testing on the national level, which obviously doesn't target subgroups well or at all, usually for legal reasons.
So, really, we can only say what an average "American" IQ is. We can't really say what "_____-Americans" typically are, unless maybe, as you mention, there's a population elsewhere that's closer to being ethnically pure.
By the way, your thinking that Korea and Japan are ethnically pure is historically pretty correct, but starting in the 20th century there was a lot more mixing between the two (not always voluntarily), and also with places like China, Indonesia, etc. They, like the white groups I mentioned earlier, all had different evolutionary pressures over long periods, so they probably do bring different things to the genetic table, even though they look superficially similar.
- CROSSHAIRS Felice • a year ago
You guys are getting too deep. You seem to forget, those asians and arabs as well as damned near every true African have offspring and the next generation become McDonalds kids. So Any glowing reports on IQ, Ability or achievement are out the door and they too become part of the declining statistic.
- Nashvillain Taterblade • a year ago
Taterstelter Your original comment is exactly as something ol' Tater Stelter would say.
- Taterblade Nashvillain • a year ago
You're a whiz! Not only am I confident that you have misunderstood what I said, at that if you re-read it, with punctuation, you might rethink your reply (and most likely not understand it anyway), but I am positive that what I said would never be uttered by Brian Stelter and your conjecture is a failure. All that said, the best way to refute something you disagree with is to address the argument with your own and not make stupid ad-hominem comparisons. I doubt very much you are capable of that, though I could be wrong.
- katyll Taterblade • a year ago
The part that's funnier is your complete lack of a sense of humor. You must be a leftist.
- Nashvillain Taterblade • a year ago
Perhaps if you knew how to punctuate, your message may be clearer.
- Kawika Kreations Nashvillain • a year ago • edited
Word. After the 2nd time it got really annoying indeed.
- disqus_Kw6FkrnE6a Nashvillain • a year ago
It's insulting, isn't it. He presents us and himself as rubes.
- Bunne Rabb • a year ago
Cohesive culture has four basic constructs. It is people who look, speak, eat and worship the same. Same appearance, same language, diet and god. Multiculturalism is a pretendyland load of muffins, and code for fragmented culture. Fragmented cultures fail. It's called history.
- mitchelin Bunne Rabb • a year ago
They don't want fragmented cultures they want a complete integration into one culture, have a guess which one?
- crystlefire68 mitchelin • a year ago
The Muslims have successfully pushed their Trojan Horse into Europe. Syria has been fighting for centuries so WHY all of a sudden do they need to go to Europe and WHY did Merkel allow migrants to piggy back unto these so called "refugees"! THIS is ALL the globalists doings. They want Europe destroyed and are now working on destroying the USA. They want ONE power over Europe, N. America, S. America and Africa similar to the EU over Europe. They will become so powerful that China, Japan and Russia will mean nothing to them! They have successfully destroyed Europe and are now working on the USA!!
- martin palm mitchelin • 8 months ago
Thankfully the Visegrad countries know what it´s like living under a dictatorship so they´ll fight till the end. While they are fighting for sanity, hopefully conservatives would be voted in to power in other countries and the fight would be full on.
- mitchelin Guest • a year ago
It certainly does. If we lose, then it's definitely the end of our western civilisation.
- Martin L mitchelin • a year ago
What do you want to fight for hypergamous Feminists who refuse to date or even breed with you and raise children UK Steve maybe needs to take a look around at whole suburbs filled with nothing but single divorced mothers, and homeless men evicted after financial divorce rape, importing E Europeans to do all the jobs you dont want to do only to save and take all their money back home within the EU on a 3 hr flight isnt really a long term solution Mitch.
- 書字露 Bunne Rabb • a year ago • edited
A country can be multi-racial, but it cannot be multi-cultural or multi-ethnic.
- Daimeng Chen Bunne Rabb • a year ago • edited
Taiwan + China at time of splitting. Look same, speak same, eat same, worship same.
Shiite + Sunni. Split worship at some point, 99% the same, everything else same.
I'm not even disagreeing that it seems like there are big problems with multiculturalism. But your "theory" is hardly a theory more than just pointing out the obvious that homogeneous cultures tend to not have certain problems.
It's not called history, history doesn't have anything remotely like what we have now.- crystlefire68 Daimeng Chen • a year ago
WELL, you can see in the USA that those who come here ILLEGALLY, still do not speak English AFTER 20 years of being in this country. ALSO, many will still fly their Mexican flag OVER the American flag. So much for assimilation into any country! They want our resources and our money but refuse to become part of this country!! THAT is happening in Europe today. WHY do you think they have "NO GO" ZONES in Europe?? They want Europe to become SYRIA and AFRICA NOT Europe!!
- Ptolomeus crystlefire68 • a year ago
Perhaps someone could think of a law that demanded from people passing a language exam on a C1 level after, let's say, 5 years of living in a country - it's a very open idea, but language is part of the culture and those, who cannot master it to a significant, fluent degree have obvious problems with the culture itself (either that, or no willpower/intelligence to learn a language to that level, in which case we might consider if it's still not a valid condition upon letting the immigrant stay in a country). Just an open idea.
- 書字露 Ptolomeus • a year ago • edited
In Japan, you are required to be fluent in Japanese if you want citizenship, and thus a say in politics. They also demand you prove you are financially independent (i.e. won't have to go on state support throughout your life, including after retirement). Finally, they interview your neighbours, colleagues, and, if you're married, your in-laws to see how well you've integrated, and to check whether your character is of a kind that is acceptable to them. You are also required to have a number (I'm not sure how many) of born-Japanese natives as sponsors (i.e. people who vouch for your character and integration).
For all the issues Japan has, and it has many, it's been doing the immigration thing the right way.
- algirdas 書字露 • a year ago
And, having in mind, that the demography and birth-rates are dwindling now, there is shortage of working hands – how such restrictiveness is helping the gloriuos mono-culture of Japan? I respect deeply the distinctiveness and quality of Japanese culture (of which there is also some variety, I guess) – but how nationalism will help, and whom?
- Martin L algirdas • a year ago
Japanese Nationalism helps elderly people living on what few overworked youths taxes keeps them and their memories of the good old days alive or the other option
Taro Aso: the Japanese politician who wants older people to 'hurry up and die' Age: 72.
Yes a 72 year old youngster, is angry about paying so much for the elderly with no cheap immigrant labor hed rather have them euthanized.- Hauke Martin L • a year ago
Former Prime Minister Aso is, strangely enough, from an old (and very rich and well-connected) Catholic family. But, like many Japanese politicians, he makes bizarre statements...The fact is that it is his party (for which my wife and I regularly vote) that openly speaks of the need for immigrants. But Japan is picky...Japan, like America, has aborted millions of her children...Japanese young people, far more affluent than any of their forebears, whine and complain about the cost of bringing up children and want the government to take responsibility. Alas, Aso's statist party (only the best among the bad) plays along...
- Hauke 書字露 • a year ago
I am a naturalized Japanese citizen, having spent most of my life in Japan, so I know of what I speak. On the whole, the point of the comment here is well-taken, but what's more significant is that it's all case-by-case, as the (friendly) officials make clear. They (supposedly, the Justice Minister) can say "no"--with no explanation. It's been rumoured that neighbours are discreetly questioned as to whether one is well-behaved, but my guess is that that too depends on who is applying. As far as I know, my (now former) colleagues were not approached. But I had to supply birth certificates for my parents, siblings, and in-laws...All in all, however, it is easier to obtain Japanese citizenship than German citizenship, for example. And the Japanese authorities are much nicer--as I can attest from having seen my wife and a daughter subjected to Kafkaesque treatment by the Beamter in supposedly "liberal" Germany.
- 書字露 Hauke • a year ago • edited
Great to hear from someone with first hand experience. I read into it a lot before coming to Japan to decide what path I should take, but ultimately I'm speaking from second hand sources as the information on the Japanese government website is sparse on the details.
I'm not surprised in the least about the Japanese officials being more polite than those of other countries, Japanese culture being what it is in that regard.
As for saying no for no reason. The government website says the Justice Minister is empowered to make the final yes/no decision on any individual's naturalisation (just as for his immigration) based on considerations of their characters, financial status, record, and considerations regarding national demographic trends. So you could fit the bill perfectly and pass the tests with flying colours, but be rejected because too many have naturalised/immigrated before you. I've not heard of it ever happening before though.
- Hauke 書字露 • a year ago
Someone I once knew well applied for permanent residence. He more than fit all the requirements, but his application was--I later indirectly heard--rejected, perhaps because he was also known as a militant gay activist. My guess is that if he had been known as a militant Scientologist, the result might have been the same. That is, Japanese society very much prefers the non-militant, with the possible exception of those who diligently and properly dispose of their rubbish...I might add that the acquaintance is now (I hear) a Japanese citizen, so the system is apparently flexible, though, as I'll readily admit, by no means transparent...When I first came to Japan, many decades ago, Japanese were Japanese, and foreigners were foreigners, but almost nobody spoke of "racism" as a problem. The irony is that as Japan opened up, it came to be subject to higher expectations. Occidentals, well aware of their own countries' problems, started heaving the term "racist" about to describe the Japanese. The fact is, however, that the sort of ideological racism that the Japanese picked up from Social Darwinism in the bad old days is long gone. Non-ideological tribalism, along with stupid prejudices, remains, but that's going too. There is de-facto immigration--something that few of us would have predicted not so long ago.
- Martin L crystlefire68 • a year ago
Ive been all over and live in Europe there is not a single NO GO ZONE I have been all over the US and every major city Ive been in is surrounded by no go zones I wouldnt walk in after dark
- Kevin Morrison crystlefire68 • 10 months ago
Dont be fooled because there are plenty here that came legally that refuse to speak English! No matter how they get here its an invasion pure and simple and it needs to END NOW!
- CarlySimon crystlefire68 • a year ago
How do you suppose that illegal immigrants get jobs in America?
- Truthhound Daimeng Chen • a year ago • edited
The barbarian immigration into Rome in the 4th and 5th centuries is similar. The Romans could handle an invading army but they didn't know what to do with immigrating civilians so they just let them come and tried to keep them peaceful by providing bread and circuses. It didn't work and eventually a disastrous war ensued followed by the collapse of the civilization. So, yes, history is merely repeating itself because people refuse to read history and act accordingly on the lessons of history.
- Martin L Truthhound • a year ago
True Rome fell from within, it was very feminist, hedonistic prostitution of women and men, homosexual, smaller familes with concentrated wealth in the smallest % the Armies of Rome didnt feel Rome was worth dying for and were defeated by norrthen tribe with sticks. stones and crude weapons so what we have here is a replay
- Paul Dan Daimeng Chen • a year ago
China and Taiwan have not the same culture. Your example is faulty.
- Alex Wong Paul Dan • a year ago
Taiwan previously was under the Qing Empire's for a long time. Though of Manchurian origin, but largely assimilated under the broader wing of Han culture (Northern Chinese spectrum).
Taiwan's origin comprised of largely "min nan yu" speakers (Southern Chinese spectrum). That's the difference. A Singaporean here. You're welcome.
- Ptolomeus Alex Wong • a year ago
You can hardly say that two families living on the same street are of the same "culture", to be honest. I presume there's no good in even bringing the term "culture" to the conversation if we can't get through it to peace. It seems to me that the search for piece lies not in defining whether cultures can coexist or not, but whether we as individuals can simultaneously be open enough to accept others, but also strong enough to not let them destroy us; which is basically the proper standing point in the Dao, where there's a balance.
- Bonnie G Ptolomeus • a year ago
You can in the USA, at least you used to be able to say this. No matter where you were from, we shared the American culture. No longer.
- Bonnie G CarlySimon • a year ago
Do you deny there is an American culture? If so, you obviously are not well-traveled.
- CarlySimon Bonnie G • 6 months ago
If by American culture you mean greed, ignorance, selfishness, and indifference then I do not deny there is an American culture.
- Truthhound Ptolomeus • a year ago
Individuals can be polite on a personal basis but this will not stop the societal changes because most individuals will not act on the best of human attributes given the predominance of the worst of human attributes. I can treat my foreign neighbour fine but will be steamrolled when a majority of my neighbourhood is comprised of foreigners who view me, not as a friend and neighbour, but an oppressor and, therefore, a target because I might have more money than them. I have plenty of immigrant friends but I still believe that mass immigration and the replacement of the European majority in Canada is, and is going to be even more destructive of freedom and prosperity as time goes on.
- Daimeng Chen Paul Dan • a year ago
At the time of split, obviously not referring to today. Use your brain, sigh.
- Paul von Hindenburg Paul Dan • a year ago
Formosa has an indigenous culture which is not Han Chinese. They have mostly become assimilated since. When the KMT showed up after Japan's defeat, the Taiwanese were not excited about it.
- Bunne Rabb Daimeng Chen • a year ago
if you say so. History, however, shows us that one cohesive culture has been kicking that other "wrong" cohesive culture off of what should be THEIR land, filled with what should be T?HEIR resources since for ****ing ever.
- possert74 Bunne Rabb • a year ago
If you are talking about the Crusades you are quite wrong, the Crusades were defensive.The muslims had conquered all the way into the heart of Europe The Europeans never did completely push them out which is why you still have so much trouble in the Balkans and Southern Russia. That whole Kosovo thing in the 1990s was a war between Christians and Muslims.
- Brian possert74 • a year ago
Not quite true Possert. The first Crusade started in 1095 whereas the fall of Constantinople happened in 1453 and the siege of Vienna in 1529.
- Dan Brian • a year ago
I think your history is a bit lacking. Islam first attacked Jerusalem in AD 637, first invaded Spain in AD 712, and were north of the Pyrenees by AD 725 (Battle of Tours). They conquered Mazara, Sicily in AD 827. And on and on and on. By the time the Crusades started, Islam had conquered a huge chunk of southern Europe.
The Christian world was about 300-400 years late to the party.
- Paul von Hindenburg Brian • a year ago
and guess who mortally wounded Byzantium with a stab in the back? Franks
- Sal Sonic Brian • a year ago • edited
possert74 is correct. The first Crusade was a defensive reaction after approximately 400 yrs of ignoring Muslim expansion/conquest. The Byzantines requested defensive help and Pope Urban II realized that denying help would only delay the inevitable.
- Martin L possert74 • a year ago
Yes 13 defensive wars for the non existant Holy land down to the last man, then then came the Childrens crusades, and more Christians were killed, robbed and raped by Christians on their way to fund them due to a Papal decree of sin exemption by the Pope and the whole "Kosovo thing" of the 90s was an ethnic genocide of over 100,000 ethnically muslim civilians, and mass rape of females and including dis -arming and rounding up 10,000 men and boys in a safe haven soccer stadium and executing and massacring them all the 2nd European ethic cleansing after the holocaust, And it was Ethnic Christian Serbians who started the war, did the genocide and were tried in the hague for crimes against humanity - yet still the people of Kosovo hold no grudges, and there is no armed attempt to repay the Serbs for what was done to them. Christianity is an Evil religion. More people were killed for Christ than any other reason all over the world including all of the Carribian most of N.America a huge section of Australia and every last Tasmanian who curious anthropolgists kept a souvneir as a reminder of the last Tasman by making a coin purse out of his tanned scrotum!
- Sal Sonic Martin L • a year ago
Wrong. We see you're educated by liberal-Talmud-Media. For anyone else interested in documented history, research, Concise History of the Crusades by Thomas F. Madden.
- Joshua P Bunne Rabb • a year ago
Except the USA has been integrating all sorts of people, who currently dont all look, eat and worship the same, for the last 250 years, so i guess that nullify's your argument. From what i can tell "cultural fragmentation" appears to be caused by leaders who wish to benefit politically in the short run in exchange for long term damage to a nation.
- Paul Dan Joshua P • a year ago • edited
No, your contraargument is wrong. Because of origin and numbers game. First : the majority of those people were of european descent and second, they came gradualy. When the number of the strangers rise to a critical mass, things go bad.
- Mathieu Lizotte Joshua P • a year ago
And the current divide in politics and all the tensions is due to these new unassimilated culture and ethnic groups.Deport everyone except Europeans and aboriginals and you will see all tensions decrease by 99%.Multiculturalism and affirmative action utterly destroyed social cohesion
- Steve Lim Mathieu Lizotte • a year ago
Opinions like this insidiously sow the beginnings of everything bad about the human race: xenophobia, racism, apartheid, intolerance, discrimination, an antipathy the world needs less of. It is sad this persists in the 21st century. The truth is nobody is purely the race or culture they claim to belong to if you go far enough into history. A DNA analysis of anyone will testify to that. What percent of one's whole hereditary makeup does it take for a particular ethnicity to qualify as the one that the person wishes to be identified by? The evidence shows that the purer the race the more inferior their cognitive faculties will be and the more abnormal their physical features will be - in the manner of the Hapsburg lip. Why people want to go that direction is beyond me. Having enjoyed living in two different economically thriving, culturally stimulating and religiously tolerant places both with very diverse populations - Singapore for 24 years, California (silicon valley) for 21 years - I find your argument uninformed, erroneous, and therefore unconviincing..
- 書字露 Steve Lim • a year ago • edited
It doesn't matter what race you are, that's just a simplification for a copout because the strongmen don't want to think through the difficult mire to get to the true core of things. The core is that one needs a singular culture, a worldview is a very good way of describing it. A worldview which has three key components:
1. A singular historical narrative, an origin story, as it were. A story of who and what we are, where we came from, and where we're going. Most of these stories are cooccurent with race, but they don't have to be, the American story, which is grounded on the second component, is an example of a historical narrative not coocurrent with race.
2. A singular dominant morality. A single set of universally shared fundamental morals that guide people's behaviour. Historically this has been the purview of religion, but that also does not have to be the case.
3. A singular interpretation of the world. This is somewhat of an expansion on component two, but it is distinct enough to be worthy of separate mention. People have to make sense of the world in the same way, when people look at the same set of facts, they have to derive fundamentally similar conclusions. To use a modern expression, people have to see the same movie when looking at the same screen.
If even a single one of these components is missing, you cannot have a functioning society. England's current turmoil is based on all three to some extent, but lies mostly on 2 and 3. The political and urban classes have a fundamentally different morality and interpretation of the world from the rural and common classes. In America's case, it's issues stem firmly from all three. The elite classes have a fundamentally different, and contradictory, historical narrative to the rest of the country, from which stems an incompatible morality and an irreparably divergent interpretation of the world.
- possert74 Mathieu Lizotte • a year ago
Actually the current divide in America is because of European immigration during and after both world wars. The Democrats were right of center and the disagreements between them and Republicans were about degrees of liberty not the concepts of liberty. You could deport every brown person out of America and we still have a commie problem. How often do you see brown antifa members?
- KingMassacre Joshua P • a year ago
Paul Dan is correct. America was 90% White in 1960. Now after 80 million illegal (and legal) immigrants from mexico came in, whites are now 60%. This notion that America is a melting pot is a recent invention. in fact throughout history in general, the divide between ethnicity and the countrys name itself was tiny. 2000 years ago, people only mass displaced other people by war, not by peacefully letting other people in. Back then, hitherto, people grouped together based on their ethnicity (nationalism). This multicultural notion is NEW, or at least a huge outlier in all of history. We could even alone hypothetically that people can choose to be in a monocultural or multicultural space, but it seems multicultural spaces are type of things that SHOULD only exist MORALLY, and we should be FORCED to accept this.
- dnara KingMassacre • 10 months ago
"white" isnt a culture. America was a melting pot because it was made up of many different european peoples and not just one or two. I don't even like how we refer to Europe as it if its a group of one united culture group just because many of them are white. Europes different cultures are separated into different countries. Americas different cultures live under one flag. Thats why it was considered the melting pot
- KingMassacre dnara • 10 months ago
Exactly. But whites or the particular predominant group that founded America (English people of Anglo Protestant/Catholic origin create a type of culture that is based on their biology and habits. Like how African Americans create their own great music. Rap isn't a white phenomenon predominantly. It's owned particularly by blacks. Like how in Italy and various countries you get cultural habits and food. Notice how we don't speak Spanish or French, only English - why is that? I wouldn't say the ethnic group or race equals a culture on a 1 to 1 scale, but it clearly has influence on it hugely.
If you mean by "melting pot" that the people's of different countries (who were MINORITIES) whether they be black/white assimilated to the majority's culture and customs then fine. This was the case till the 1950s. After the wars, clearly this definition has extended to "let's pander to the 62 million Mexicans that haven't been a group associated with America pre1965". Multiculturalism is a new invention and it's undermining an actual monoculture. If you want Europe and it's individual countries to have its own seperate cultures, all they have to do is stay in their own country. Sweden will probably turn to Mecca soon - letting in Muslims who have spread to nearly every country.
- Mathieu Lizotte Joshua P • a year ago
The U.S.A has been doing that for the last 60 years or so, it was well over 90% European until recently.
- crystlefire68 Mathieu Lizotte • a year ago
The difference being that the USA is not trying to force another government or religion down everyone's throats like the muslims are doing. The muslims feel that Sharia Law should be above the laws of ANY country because their God is above men. THE USA has a government and a President. IF YOU do not like OUR government, then go somewhere else. IN EUROPE, muslims and the migrants are trying to TAKE OVER those countries by establishing "NO GO" ZONES were even the police and that countries laws are afraid to go! THAT is overtaking a country AND government!!
- Truthhound Joshua P • a year ago • edited
Joshua, the problem now is that immigrants have a welfare net that insulates them from their neighbours. They don't have to make themselves acceptable to their new neighbours because their economic survival is guaranteed by the gov't. In the first 200 years where their was little or no welfare system, new Americans had to build friendships and adopt the cultural norms of American society in order to get along and survive. No longer. They can now thumb their noses at Americans while still getting three square meals a day along with free everything.
- crystlefire68 Joshua P • a year ago
Different people from different countries can live FINE together as long as we all follow the same government and the same laws. Muslims have a very difficult time doing exactly that. They feel that THEIR "Sharia Law" has precedent over our government laws. I have only one thing to say about that, move back to your own country were Sharia Law is practiced. We are a melting pot of religions so YOUR Sharia Law will not work here!! AND it definitely should not work ABOVE OUR LAWS!
- Bunne Rabb Joshua P • a year ago
As I look upon a sea of "Americans" who are all tightly wrapped in heir own little sub-cultures and environs, each supicious of the other, I cannot hlp but think that what you see as "nullification of my theory" is a bedrock testament to it.
- Brandon Andreski Bunne Rabb • a year ago
You're entirely incorrect about your assessment of American culture being a sea of subcultures. I think of it more like a bunch of lakes and ponds with rivers and tributaries that all lead to that greater sea. People come here and adopt to the culture of many cultures, eventually but like the wonders of the desert it takes a generation to leave the old world behind and become a part of the new. Some may stay inside those lakes and ponds but eventually the cultures merge into the sea naturally. My own family is a perfect example of this. My dads Side of the family his mother is hispanic, his father German, my mothers side is native American and Danish, while her mother is Scottish and English, my grandfather remarried and she is from Taiwan. My wife's family is French, Lebanese, Serian, and Israeli. My neighbors back in my last home were black South African, the house before that was Korean.
Italians and Irish in america were seen less favorably by others who had old grudges from old countries or prejudices but who the hell cares now? My wife attended a predominantly asian (96% at the time) grade school in california. That same school is now almost completely mixed culturally. People may migrate where they feel more comfortable but over time and through only one or two generations, without government intervention stirring the pot through identity politics, People end up mixing and coexisting just fine.
- Bunne Rabb Brandon Andreski • a year ago
You forgot to preface that with "in my opinion". The analogy is a bit... I dunno "Lakes and ponds"? OK... The rest seems a tad anecdotal. And that's just fine.
- Martin L Brandon Andreski • a year agosee more
Finally a voice of reason, seeing demographic changes as a threat to society is a serious xenophobic attitude that is rising suprising from the most racially mixed and diverse country in the world the US, Alot see Europe as a static museum of ancestry where I live the family unit is dead, low birth rates and aging society. Female hypergamy women having many partners, and not marrying at all or on average over 30 and the largest age group is over 65 - I live in Finland if immigrants from mainly Somallia, Iraq, Africa, and 125 nations in total all left there would be no workers, no tax base, no future, every small business in my neighborhood is owned and operated by non European immigrants 1 thai restaurant 2 pubs, 2 pizza and Kebab take aways without which there would be nothing here. Immigrants after even just 1 or 2 generations and some if they are young integrate fine, Your 1000X more likely to see a drunken pub fight than any kind of racial or religious conflict, right now whats needed is low wage immigration because Finland already has some of the highest educated youth, Racism is a major problem in rural areas which are basically dying towns of elderly, there is no law on equal housing so one town proposed and offered any native white Finnish Family with children would be given a vacant apartment, a variety of low wage manual jobs, and a cash bonus of 3000€ and NO ONE took it......!. No one wants to be a waged and taxed slave to elderly racists. Another town had newly constructed apartment blocks for over 10 years without a single tenant and it was all torn down others have been used to house refugees, if they can make it through -40c winters in isolated areas with no social or work other than language and integration courses thats great because thousands have left that couldnt, As with every society there is racism against any new group, muslims are not bad people all that I know dont drink, use drugs, are family oriented people willing to take jobs over educated youth dont want of course theres bad in every group even now I see Robert Deniro is coming out with a new Scorsese 3 hr Italian mafia movie, and the largest lynching of the south was in New Orleans and it was Italians who were seen as not integrating as well as Irish, African American, Jewish, Muslim who have been there since slave days Asians including the Chinese who opened the west where you live building the railways as far as a world culture that would be American of all backgrounds its everywhere in the media, music and as a second language in most European countries so if anyone culture is invading Europeans its Americans, Yes their are African youth who pretend to be hip hoppers who were most likely from farming familes, but its just kids being kids I really wish they would stop inciting hate with all of this Europe is dying the most diverse European countries are thriving while the most homogenous are the ones that are dying alot of East Europeans are leaving and theyre also not liked there is some reasoning behind that its because they are temporary EU workers who save all their money and just go back home even after many years and immigrating only because of higher wages but because they are white their is no open racism, if they were non white and seen as "the other" they would be driven out as job migrants and opportunists, and alot of racism comes from Eastern Europe which has banned immigration while themselves mass immigrate by the millions this is one of the reasons for Brexit thats simply not talked about much.
- Capitalism Magazine Bunne Rabb • a year ago
The choice is not multiculturalism or tribalism; there is a third alternative: a culture based on individualism.
See the tour at https://www.capitalism.org
- Truthhound Capitalism Magazine • a year ago
I like individualism and the US has been a great example of a society based upon that. However, there were always elements of tribalism. European ethnicity and christianity were the foundation even though there were minorities present. Even many the founders believed that and said so. The decline of individualism, and the Republic, began when people found out they could vote other people's money into their own pockets. One of the founders predicted that spell the end of the Republic.
- Bunne Rabb Bob Avery Brown • a year ago • edited
Oh, well if YOU say so. Dear me, let's talk about petense.
- CarlySimon Bunne Rabb • a year ago
Petense? LOL Bunnyrabbit better brush up on her spelling and grammar.
- Bunne Rabb CarlySimon • a year ago
Scathing. If you saved your receipt, you can get a refund from Wal-Mart on that authority pose.
- CarlySimon Bunne Rabb • 6 months ago
There's no hyphen in Walmart, dear. My word the hickbilly is strong with this one.
- algirdas Bunne Rabb • a year ago
Don't you treat 'cohesive culture' as an exceptional thing possessed only by genetically close small tribes here? "Look alike" is so relative ...
- Bunne Rabb algirdas • a year ago • edited
No, expanding diversity in the respective gene pools sorted that out for itself. Most of us, geologically, are mutts. Racially, not so much. Cultural contructs stemmed out of those four basic traits, though, due to genetics, available resources for shelter and diet and religious beliefs and commonality of language. People do not abandon those to assimilate into a foreign culture. They want the advantages of superior resource availability of host cultures to which they may immigrate, but they still see the world through the window of their native cultural norms.
- ontheleftcoast • a year ago • edited
In this conversation, Peter Robinson said something to the effect that less than ten years ago, the demographic and consequent social changes Douglas Murray is talking about were "unthinkable."
That just isn't so. Among others, the late Italian journalist Oriana Falacci wrote about it from September 11, 2001 until her death in 2006, and in that year Mark Steyn published America Alone which laid out the demographic argument. Both were vilified for it and not just by the Left but by many nice polite people who wanted to go along to get along, or who honestly believed that the US would bring enlightened Western democracy to the Middle East and North Africa. Steyn and Falacci may have been wrong about details, but over all Douglas Murray reinforces what they wrote, and as he says, it's too late to do anything about it.
Hoover's own Niall Ferguson had this to say in 2004:
...The French historian Alain Besancon is one of a number of European intellectuals who detect a significant threat to the continent’s traditional Christian culture. The Egyptian-born writer Bat Yeor has for some years referred to the rise of a new “Eurabia” that is hostile in equal measure to the United States and Israel. Two years ago, Pat Buchanan published an apocalyptic book, titled The Death of the West, prophesying that declining European fertility and immigration from Muslim countries could turn “the cradle of Western civilization” into “its grave.”
- R.D. Cheese ontheleftcoast • a year ago
Europeans shot themselves in the foot, and have no one else to blame for what is perceived as Europe's cultural decline. I'm not Christian, nor am I Catholic. But, for the past 7 months I have been very closely studying the current controversies within the Catholic Church. Pope Francis is being accused, by Traditionalist Catholics, of actively attempting to transform Catholicism into a new religion--literally--based on a kind of global, social, syncretism rooted in "naturalism," or a kind of eco-environmentalism.
They blame the following entities for this "heresy" and "apostasy," as they call it: Masonry, Modernism, Liberalism, Communism, Progressivism and homosexuality, all of which, they state, "infiltrated" the Catholic Church/Religion (See Dr. Taylor Marshall's book, Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within).
Now, what's fascinating to me is that, while conservative Europeans and European Americans [called "white"] blame Muslims, Africans, and other non-Europeans that have migrated to Europe for the destruction of European culture, it appears to me that Traditionalist Catholics have it right: It is NOT Muslims that pose a threat to European culture. There IS no threat to European culture from Muslims, because European culture HAS ALREADY BEEN DESTROYED--by Europeans.
Europeans have waged both PHYSICAL wars (World War I and World War II) against each other, as well as IDEOLOGICAL wars against each other, as the Traditionalist Catholics point out in identifying Masonry, Modernism, Liberalism, Communism, Progressivism and homosexuality as infiltrating culprits that destroyed "real" Catholicism.
World War I and World World II were actually European CIVIL WARS between Europeans, essentially. The major ideological wars (Liberalism, Communism, Marxism, etc) were fought between Europeans. Zbignew Brezenski points out that, during the 20th century, a whopping 175,000,000 human beings were killed through non-religious wars; wars of ideology.
I think the Muslims will just try to DUCK.
- Dora David R.D. Cheese • a year ago
I don't think ducking will be an option. After all other races, cultures and so on have been dealt with the final war will happen between the two cousin. The Jews and the Muslims. Which cousin will inherit the earth. But, it probable won't stop there they'll (the inherits) just end up fighting amongst them selves till theirs not enough people left to populate the earth. Then the earth will continue on it's orbit until it's natural death.
- John Smithwick R.D. Cheese • a year ago • edited
You're right that WWI and WWII ruined us - one thing to keep in mind: Christianity WAS present during that period (it wasn't very effective at stopping the elite from shepherding the masses like sheep to the slaughterhouse; in fact, it seems that may have been part of its design). It's still here today but far fewer are participating in it, because besides people no longer believing in supernatural Middle Eastern stories, Christianity does not defend nor even discuss the European people. We need a new nationalist faith to restore our nations. For example, the Church of England and Church of Scotland ought to be reformed such that the British people themselves are the subject matter and source of faith. The sermons would be about our history, our culture (we'd discuss philosophy, science, perhaps a few references to our old religions; we'd throw in some comedy, song and dance to make it more "down to earth"), etc., ... but most importantly, the sermons would be about our need to work as a team and build families to sustain our civilization. We'd call this new religion "The British Faith". In Germany, there ought to be a "German Faith"; in France, a "French Faith", etc., - see the German Faith Movement (in the 1930s) as a precedent.
- ontheleftcoast R.D. Cheese • a year ago
WWI was even more an intrafamilial squabble, what with the British royals, the Kaiser and the Tsar's families all being related.
I think it was Niall Ferguson who noted that when a rising economic power (such as the newly united Germany in the late 19th century, or as now, China) begins to have a larger economy than the previous dominant economy (the British empire, or as now, the USA) the risk of war is very high.
True, Communism is in origin a European political religion, but I wouldn't call Mao a European leader; his Great Leap Forward alone accounted for nearly a third of Brzezinsky's death toll in four years.- Lin Mal ontheleftcoast • a year ago
If ever there was a 'war' between China and the U S it would not last long. And the Stars and Stripes would be the victor. And China knows it; so that is why they are seeking influence or hegemony (not really likely) in Africa and S E Asia generally. The U S would get a bloody nose, but Chiiiina would be toast! And China knows it!!!
- 書字露 ontheleftcoast • a year ago • editedsee more
It goes back much further. Just look at Enoch Powell's 1968 'Rivers of Blood' speech.
Edit: Here are some extracts of the speech I could find.
"Here is a decent, ordinary fellow Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen."
Powell advocated voluntary re-emigration by "generous grants and assistance" and mentioned that immigrants had asked him whether it was possible. He said all citizens should be equal before the law, and that:
"This does not mean that the immigrant and his descendants should be elevated into a privileged or special class or that the citizen should be denied his right to discriminate in the management of his own affairs between one fellow-citizen and another or that he should be subjected to an inquisition as to his reasons and motives for behaving in one lawful manner rather than another."
"For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions."
The final excerpt, which is also the end of the speech, mirrors much of what Douglas Murray says about the lack of courage in today's society:
"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal."
Of course, the reaction by the establishment even back then, was the same as it is now. The following is the reaction by a Labour MP, Tony Benn:
"The flag of racialism which has been hoisted in Wolverhampton is beginning to look like the one that fluttered 25 years ago over Dachau and Belsen. If we do not speak up now against the filthy and obscene racialist propaganda ... the forces of hatred will mark up their first success and mobilise their first offensive. ...
Enoch Powell has emerged as the real leader of the Conservative Party. He is a far stronger character than Mr. Heath. He speaks his mind; Heath does not. The final proof of Powell's power is that Heath dare not attack him publicly, even when he says things that disgust decent Conservatives."
It is quite amazing to see how, in certain aspects, the political situation in the west, in this case specifically Britian, has not changed in three-quarters of a century.
- Lin Mal 書字露 • a year ago
And the left consistently portray any argument against 'cultural genocide' as RACIST which it, strictly speaking , is NOT. It is a cultural clash or more likely, an imposition engendered by the left to erode western civilization and capitalist economic power! They, the extreme left of whatever flavour you select, has lost the contest; free market capitalism, even in China, has proven its power and superiority over collectivism in the worth of human progress, both societal and individual, and has left the left with nothing but angst!
- Bad News Quillan • a year ago
Murray states that no new religions will be created...
Presenting Extinction Rebellion, Saint Greta, the worship of Gaea and other parts of the
Climate Crisis hysteria.--Bad News
- Yvonne Forsman Bad News Quillan • a year ago
Funny. I am quite sure her fame is short lived. We are in a new Ice Age. After Sweden (her native country) got snow early this year, somebody suggested: buy Greta a snow shovel. LOL
- John Smithwick Bad News Quillan • a year ago • edited
We should create a new religion. For Britain it would be called "The British Faith". We'd be placing faith in our people and nation. In 1930s Germany, there was something called the German Faith Movement - a religion based on having faith in the German people. Hitler essentially banned it because he didn't want it competing with his party nor aggravating the Church.
- death to leftism • a year ago • edited
Rome was sacked by the Visigoths.
At that time the Roman's for the most part had devolved into nothing more than a debauched mental asylum without bars.
Thus they essentially had nothing to fight for so they simply let themselves be conquered.
Today with the Marxist psychopaths quickly dominating most of Europe, europeans in general have been for all intents and purposes reduced to almost a mirror image of the Roman's when conquered ,except now they run around addicted to a tiny Iphone screen as they sit in an air conditioned room and pontificate on how evil and vile both these devices are simply because they both depend on fossil fuels for their very existence.In many ways I feel Douglas Murray is not so much simply pessimistic about Europe's future, but more so just simply someone who clearly sees reality and proclaims "THE KING HAS NO CLOTHES",
- AbbottIsGone death to leftism • a year ago
Nietzsche thought the Christians brought down the Roman Empire... I can't remember exactly how that argument went but he did say something along those lines!
- Dora David AbbottIsGone • a year ago
Roman Empire went broke. They did not have the money to support (supplies) and pay the soldiers in the end. The soldiers were left high and dry and just walked away from their post. Left to find another way to support themselves. You want to break/destroy a country keep them in a perpetual war. It works every time.
- Paul Dan AbbottIsGone • a year ago
Yes, christianity was a big step back. An efeminate globalist semitic sect.
- Brandon Andreski Paul Dan • a year ago
Yet it was Christianity that saved rome and made it one of the most powerful forces in history. In fact if it were not for that power we would all be speaking Arabic after the 1640's for sure. Perhaps even before that.
- Chris Hibbert • a year ago
If you see a large group of people living in a dysfunctional society why would you import them into advanced societies at tax payer expense, how about some compassion for the tax payers footing the bill by force from irresponsible refugee policies enacted by the state.
- boson96 • a year ago
Why did you turn off the YouTube comments??!! That will drastically hamper the engagement of that video and thus it's reach.
Couldn't you handle people talking their minds on a public forum? So much for free speech.
- gestet boson96 • a year ago
It's cancel/delete culture @ work here. New YT TOS take effect Dec. 10, 2019 & YT as everyone knows is silencing the right & freedom of speech will be a "thing of the past" by 2020 going forward.
If all of you think things are bad now in this regard, the next decade it will escalate even quicker. Book it!
- OscarSparrow boson96 • a year ago
I put on a comment last night. YouTube told me someone had liked it and now comments are disabled. How does this work? Was it something I said?
- boson96 OscarSparrow • a year ago
Maybe the Hoover institution realised that there is too much redpilling going on in the comments and thus they disabled it there to prevent wrongthink.
- itsyaboigiraffarig Julie A • a year ago
Many less will see these comments, though. They're afraid the comments will give them a bad name.
- crystlefire68 • a year ago
NOTICE how the illegal Mexicans in this country after 20 years STILL do not speak English and need an interpreter. THEY also fly the Mexican flag OVER the American flag. THIS is NOT assimilation but taking over another country!! WHY do the LEFT ignore these negative signs?
- Mark Hargrove crystlefire68 • a year ago
Visible minorities are sometimes treated unfairly. That makes them feel less like part of the same team as the majority. I'm not sure what the right answer is for immigration in America from a practical standpoint. From a practical standpoint, it may make more sense to have a merit based system. However, racism actually hinders assimilation.
- Morpheas • 10 months ago
"To comment on this video please go to hoover . org, where we can moderate and DELETE your comments at will."
Good job Hoover.
Way to really make a powerful pro-free speech statement.Pathetic.
- pablo • a year ago
Everything Murray says is blatantly obvious to sensible people ... the regressive left use the freedom western culture gives them to push a view of the world that is a fantasy!
- Chris Hibbert • a year ago
Seems everyone is allowed to have a [reference to live with white people,,,,except white people of course.
- PeteFreans • a year ago • edited
"And there is also the problem of an existential tiredness and a feeling that perhaps for your story has run out and a new story must be allowed to begin." I am an American whose parents were Italian immigrants after WW2. America is my country but Italy holds a deeply held place in my heart. After hearing that portion in Mr. Murray's book, my eyes welled in tears. This really is a tragedy unfolding before us.
- Lin Mal PeteFreans • a year ago
Yes, I understand your grief, even though I am fourth generation Aussie! You, like many of us, are proud of your ancestry and their courage in migrating to a 'new world' for new opportunities. So in one sense we can not dismiss the avalanche of migrants trying to enter the west; the question remains though of their 'motives' is it to prosper or to prosletize !
- Julie A • a year ago • edited
How is it so easy for muslims to move to Europe, but if I wanted my American, 11-year-old son, who has 100% European ancestry, to be able to move to Europe when he is an adult, it will be an uphill battle. Why? Someone answer that please. By the way - America is having the same problems that Europe is having, except I daresay more so because of the black population. All I'm hearing in this video is the "crimes" of Europe's past. Have you people ever learned the histories of other continents, like East Asia or Africa? Or the middle east? Arabs were the worse about acquiring slaves - the worse - why don't we hear about that?
- Del Storm Julie A • a year ago
"Arabs were the worse about acquiring slaves - the worse - why don't we hear about that?"
Because Arab slavers are unapologetic about it, making whites the soft/easy target. Why point out there was Arab slavery if Arabs themselves don't care about it? It's easier to go after the racial group that ended slavery because people of every other race know we now abhor the practice and will likely always feel guilty about it.
- Inigo Florin Julie A • a year ago
True! Arabs, Turks enslaved women and children as they went about their conquering rampages. That's the reason in India they developed a tradition of women committing suicides when their husbands were killed. None of that goes unsaid because it's not ok to criticize arabs.
- Del Storm Inigo Florin • a year ago
Further, Arab slavery continues to this very day. If people shone a light on that it would make the people that whine about white slavery obligated to actually DO something about present day Arab slavery(If they cared about it happening in the past, then they should care about it happening now) rather than lament about the past. The past and people that are no longer alive are easy targets.
Not sure I made much sense. LOL
- Muhammad Aryan • a year ago
Now, politically correct effeminate ((conservatives))) realise that their brainless 'civic nationalism' didn't work. The other ethnicities are not as delusional as the White races of Europe. They don't assimilate. Why should they? They have kept their ties of blood alive even on the foreign soil. The 'Melting pot' balderdash has brought Europe and its cultural extensions (The US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) on the brink of ethno-cultural suicide. Milquetoast, feminist-ridden, libertarian spiritually dead autistics cannot retake their continent.
The blame lies squarely on the so called 'Conservatives'. They stood by and let Cultural Bolshevism destroy their dwellings. What a shameless lot!
- KingMassacre Muhammad Aryan • a year ago
Correct. Conservatives simply dont conserve. where were they at the end of the sexual revolution? Getting drunk in pubs, abandoning their children and wanting to have as much sex as possible with other women. Feminism is a response to conservatives, not traditionalists. Sexual revolution was political, conservatives today think "same-sex marriage is fine, legal immigration en masse is fine, interfering in other wars is fine, let me take a libertarian stance against drag queens/kids/porn".
- Dora David Muhammad Aryan • a year ago
You need to take a D N A test. Your blood line will not be as pure as you would like to think. Ishmael was half Jewish (Abraham) and Egyptian (Hagar). Then you had all the people that did assimilate (melting pot) back in history so they wouldn't lose their head. You might find you have some relatives that did this if you were to really look into your ancestry. And it's not uncommon for some (Muhammad) to marry first cousins and health problems stem from this in your culture and others cultures have done this to. So when it comes down to it for one to say they are better then another is just an opinion and those are a dime a dozen.
- Babyboomer • a year ago
I do think there are more trans and androgynous humans walking about. At 70yo I'm convinced that humans are being physically altered by the hormone disruptors ubiquitous in our modern world in the form of pesticides and herbicides. The case of the shrinking penis and so forth, not just with humans but with animals as well. Why is no one concerned about this? My 68yo sister is a nurse who along with her colleagues see WW2 veterans with more substantial organs than young males today. In any event I am irritated by the tyranny of sexual minorities.
- Lin Mal Babyboomer • a year ago
Yes, we get your concerns about the foisting on mainstream society of minority opinion. What happened to 'majority rules' ? And how much of socirty is involved in this 'tyranny'? What proportion; it was never in the past given recognition exactly because it was a small cohort !
- Silvester Gonzales • a year ago • edited
I absolutely agree with the content but unfortunately the guest and the host don't have the courage to point the finger to the real responsible of this sad situation. who is behind of this deep fatigue to survive of the European race? who are on the control of this massive bankruptcy? Who are leading the globalist ideology? As long as the responsible of this situation are not identified because of the cowardness of the intellectuals and the thinkers because they are afraid of being booted and boycotted from the scene, Europe and christianity will die slowly but surely. Blaming Islam is a scapegoat because the cowards are afraid to identify the real actors who are working hard to make Christian Europe pay for it's past. it's a lost cause now, it's too late.
- George G Rose • a year ago
I found this interview fascinating and agree with the view that we are in the midst of cultural "madness".
As a conservative Christian in the USA, I wondered why the death of European Christianity was not discussed as being part and parcel of the "madness"? I find myself able to recognize and stand against the madness even as I feel overwhelmed by it. I feel it is not a blindness but rather a clarity I have thru my faith. I was encouraged to continue to stand and to ask the question, "Compared to what?"
Thank you
George Rose
Charlotte NC 28226 - Doug Nelson • a year ago
The vast majority of Americans, and Europeans also I would think, have no doubt about the truth of this. What I don't understand is why we are so helpless? Why are we so willing to let go of everything important just to avoid being called a name by some fool?
- Julie A Doug Nelson • a year ago
That is an excellent question. I live in the midwest and if I say something about what I have observed and it doesn't agree with the liberal side, I am harassed and outcast. But I do it anyway.
- Lin Mal Julie A • a year ago
Good for you. Take the battle to the front, and take on the foolish left!
- Liam Caffrey • a year ago
Did some of the people of 5th century rome, who had the ability to move their considerable wealth elsewhere and use that wealth to establish a secure and profitable place for their clans or families, just move on and abandon rome itself? Have the wealthiest families today quietly built fortresses for themselves somewhere and abandoned the more widely visible living spaces, like London?
- Truthhound • a year ago
Robinson is one the best interviewers I have seen. He ranks up there with Larry King. What is common to both men is that they let their guests speak and finish their thoughts without constant interruptions. This allows the listener to get a good understanding of the thoughts of the guests and to make an independent, thoughtful evaluation of the ideas presented. Try to find this anywhere on the Left or the Right media.
- TaiChiMonster • a year ago
GRATEFUL??
People who suffer from envy (covetousness) are immediately forestalled from experiencing even a shred of gratitude. We are doomed, as are our parasites. It seems that John Galt needn't bother. - Dora David • a year ago
Book: Pan Europe By Kalergi. Will explain what is going on. It is about the destruction of the Asian, Black and White races it just happens in Europe, America And Western Countries. The E U just did what Hitler tried to do but, without firing one bullet. And the people followed willingly this time to their own demise.
- Jesse E Villanova • a year ago
If you're European, your grandchildren are gonna have a real rough time and it's all because our altruism is suicidal.
- Argle Bargle • a year ago • edited
I can't wait for the uprising. Like frothing at the mouth 'can't wait'. I really don't have anything against the immigrants that wish to change their life and have a belief in what their host country can do for them if they work hard and consider themselves ' British', but the issue of those that mock Europe and come for the handout.............shoot em. As far as trans goes.....lol.
'Thank god' for voices of reason like Douglas Murray. He brilliantly articulates the very thing that I myself find I cannot purely due to the level of anger this entire subject makes me feel. He is absolutely correct when he says most people are cowards, afraid to speak up for fear of losing what they have. This gives the lunatics the power. Your fear. My fear. Our fear. We have nothing to fear except ourselves. The ingratitude that Douglas Murray speaks of I see as rampant and they don't see the message through the ideology....as he says (paraphrasing) "Come and be gay, trans, WHATEVER! The system will accept you"
Their problem is that THEY WAN'T TO BE THE SYSTEM. - carla15 • a year ago
The Europeans are trying to fight back at least a portion of the population over 55 who grew up in a very different Europe. The root cause of the problem comes right from people in North America who want to destroy our cultures and history. Kalergi's substitution of population.
- Bob Avery Brown • a year ago • edited
Duh, of course they removed comments from youtube. Great video - absolutely great - and many comments seem to be made without much thought or intention of creating good
- Justin Hebert • a year ago
"I have a question but I'm afraid to ask it because I'm certain it is so politically incorrect."
"Fire away."
Best moment in the interview! - Paul Dan • a year ago
It's always (((them))). (((They))) are the creators of all the tentacules of liberalism.
Why everybody are so shy to pronunce these words as the best temporary solution : nationalist military dictatorship ?
It would solve all the problems. Get the (((cause))), prosecute (((it))), lock (((it))) up, then deport all (((their))) noneuropean accomplices. - Venkatesh Subramanian • a year ago
At 10:34 Murray says, "The catastrophe underlying all of this is the presumption that...every country in the world is a country for the people of that country - except Europe." YComing from almost any third world country outside Europe, as I do, I should point out that this is the exact inverse of what we have all been experiencing for the last five centuries - the strictly European presumption that every country/region/continent in the world is a land provided by God for exclusive European pillage. Look at the 'Americas', look at Africa, Asia, Australia! What the hell are these white skinned people from a faraway land doing in out midst? Enslaving us, looting us! In case anyone gets the feeling that this is very old hat, just look take a look at what Europe/NATO has been doing to the oil bearing lands of the middle east inn the last two decades. This is not old hat, this is the order of the day. The migrants are just the blowback.
- Lin Mal Venkatesh Subramanian • a year ago
Bull s--t. If the Euros had not exploited the oil then your own home-grown despots would have, i e The Shah, the Ayatollohah, the 'Pharoah', the 'Saddam'. Whoever was in power when the oil companies came knocking would have done the deal for their own personal gain! Not nfor the long term benefit of their bcitizens, like perhaps Singapore !
- ontheleftcoast Venkatesh Subramanian • a year ago • edited
Prior to that, you had the Muslim presumption that every country/region/continent in the world is a land provided by God for exclusive Muslim pillage. Oh, wait. That still exists. Five centuries, five centuries.... Five centuries ago Muslims hadn't quite finished with their peaceful conquests on the Indian subcontinent.
And the Aztec empire, having peacefullly invaded and devoured—often literally—its neighbors (many of whom allied with Cortez, because the enemy of my enemy...) was at the height of its power, the Ashanti Empire hadn't even got off the ground (and started its enslaving of conquered peoples...)
- William Norris ontheleftcoast • a year ago
The difference between European colonial conquest and that of the Ashanti and Aztec is proximity.
In the long run, colonial conquest by NEIGHBORS leads to a relatively stable assimilation because they're likely similar people anyway, in appearance for sure. Look at England and Wales.
European conquest was unique in that it went the distance, literally to the ends of the earth, colonizing people who were completely different in appearance and in every other way.
- ontheleftcoast William Norris • a year ago
Stable assimilation like the way the Bantu peoples assimilated the San peoples after they drove them off the good pastures?
The way the Turco/Mongol/Persian Muslim conquerors assimilated India?
The way the Muslim conquest extinguished native cultures from the Atlantic to Indonesia and beyond?
Perhaps a critical difference was factors related the discrepancy of material technology between Europe and its conquests.
- William Norris ontheleftcoast • a year ago
Yes....technology also helped the Europeans "go the distance". That's va good point.
- ontheleftcoast William Norris • a year ago
China might have had the technology, but the Ming Dynasty returned to its founding Confucian principles and abandoned projecting force abroad after the Yongli Emperor's expeditions in the early 15th century.
Interesting that China's propaganda arm in American academia is the Confucius Institutes.
- William Norris ontheleftcoast • a year ago
Projecting force means colonizing and enslaving other peoples. China even banned gunpowder technology that could have helped them do it, if I recall correctly.
China resisted that impulse, Europeans could not.
Europeans should have stayed home and left the rest of the world alone, but who's to say another race wouldn't have done the same. Anyway, Europeans are about to reap the whirlwind from the winds they sowed a long time ago. Really sad.
- ontheleftcoast William Norris • a year ago
I suspect somebody else eventually would have. As Poul Anderson's immortal character Nicholas van Rijn said, "when the time comes to railroad you railroad." China seems to think its time is now.
I'd say Europe began reaping the demographic whirlwind at Ypres in 1914.
- William Norris ontheleftcoast • a year ago
That's why I support nuclear weapons for ALL tribes, ethnic groups and nations. And uncontainable biological weapons too. No better way to assure an everlasting peace.
- ontheleftcoast William Norris • a year ago
You mean like the Bantus (farmer/herders) and the hunter/gatherer/herder San in precolonial southern Africa? Worked out well for the Bantus, anyway. The San got kicked off the more desirable grazing in many instances.
Or like the Mongols, Turks and Persians who conquered India? Kinda hard to be colonial overlords when your religion requires you to kill any pagan/polytheist who doesn't convert, but the need for peons meant they cut stubborn Hindus some slack once they had massacred enough of them.
- TruthBTold • a year ago
I'm glad I last saw Western Europe in 2004. As a matter of fact , it was Florence (the site of the birth of the renaissance).Islam has accomplished what Hitler could not do with the Wehrmacht. What has happened to Europe is a lesson for the U.S. We still have time , but it is growing short.
- Walter Melvin Roberts III • a year ago
"Every country belongs to its inhabitants." -- Well that's new to the ears of European Imperialism when all the world was the oyster of the British EMPIRE. Now that the tide flows back they are up in arms because they are out of control.
- Lin Mal Walter Melvin Roberts III • a year ago
But control was what the British Empire 'gave' the indiginous populations; i. e. an alternative to tribal warfare and the benefits of European Civilization and an ordered society. Yes there was a price to be paid as in all progress but those countries are now in the modern world instead of living in poverty, destitution and ignorance!
- Lorenz Kraus • 9 months agosee more
It's the MURDER of Europe by the two-faced genocidal British and American Empires.
British conquest of Europe pushed denazification across Europe, i.e., nation-hating nation-wrecking.
The British decided to exterminate 20 million Germans for greed and market share. "There are twenty million too many Germans." said Clemenceau. See the Hooten Plan by Rhodes Scholar Hooten and Donald Ewen Cameron.
1) CENTURY OF WAR: ANGLO-AMERICAN OIL POLITICS.
2) Hidden History by Docherty and MacGregor.
Murray is a lying British agent. He could care less about Europe. The migrants were forced into Germany by allied powers to push Turks on German women. Germany didn't want them. They were forced to let in Turks because the British and Americans control the German government and media. Do you think an SS run Germany would allow migrants to walk right in? NO.
The British push their atrocity propaganda and war guilt endlessly. Is it any wonder that a national culture dies under British hegemony and that birth rates were pushed down by Rockefeller style birth control measures. The British and Americans sterilized Europe with social engineering campaigns. Empires hate nations. If one nation can be free, like Hitler's Germany, then they can all be free.
Hitler did not invade Poland. Hitler EVICTED Poland out of Prussia. Self-defense is exculpatory. Hitler did nothing wrong. The British declared war on Hitler for evicting Poland out of Prussia. It was none of their business. The British deserve the war guilt.
The self-righteous person of British origin who can't comprehend that is the murderer of Europe.
See ADOLF HITLER: GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD.
Open your eyes. It's never too late to see who murdered Europe.
- Brian Hodge 5000 Lorenz Kraus • 7 months ago
"Springtime for Hitler"? See Mel Brooks' hilarious film "The Producers".
- wassermann777 • 10 months ago • edited
Douglas Murray is English. Isn't he? Why is he giving this interview in Fiesole Italy? What about his English identity? Is he living there, like many English people, in a "post war colonialism"?
Well, he is probably refering to a so called "European identity". And I am refering to my World identity. And now? This man is redundant.. - Mike • a year ago
The last question is perhaps the most critical. Basically the question was, How do you live a good life now that we've passed the "tipping point?" For me, the best hope for humanity lies in Christianity. I know some "intellects" may scoff at my response, but when someone comes to know Jesus Christ and commits his/her life to being like him, there is a dramatic change for the good. We need more good in the world: more kindness, compassion, patience, respect, and responsibility. We need more people to be like Christ. A complete revision of our banking system wouldn't hurt either.
- Mark Hargrove • a year ago
It's reasonable for the beneficiaries of colonialism, including GB, to feel some guilt. All societies have been guilty of atrocities. However, at this present time, a lot of suffering in this world are a direct result of colonialism. The question is whether morality and practicality are at odds. Also, a lot of the suffering that is the result of European colonialism is in Latin America and China, but the majority of the immigrants that Europe is grappling with aren't from those regions.
- Tom Murphy • a year ago
Murray is a big, talking pile of contradictions to me. I believe he is correct, in that rapid movements of Islamics will alter the culture of Europe. But, to me, the reason Muslims are moving to Europe is because of the (economic) culture of the place. Let's face it, Europe is rich. It didn't get to be rich by being religious, so much as by putting commerce above all. The background of Christianity allowed businesses to trust others, a vital factor when making a contract.
The retrograde Islam of the Mullahs can't survive the brutal business environment in Europe. Young Muslims will be confronted by the choice of Islamic poverty, or non-religious wealth. My bet, they will take the money. Thus, European culture will triumph over the culture of the emigres.
Murray, however, while he professes belief in European culture, doesn't seem to think it can withstand outside ideas. And if he believes that you must be born in Europe to have European culture, he is right, it won't withstand the immigration. But if the culture stands on its own, that it is valuable and true regardless of where you were born, then his ethnocentrism is misplaced.The US has a similar situation, though much less severe. Central American immigration will, and has, changed American culture. But so long as we adhere to our Constitution, and the principles of individual liberty that it embodies, America will remain American (even if Juan becomes more common than John).
- Dan • a year ago
Curiously, the European countries who seem most to be pushing back on this migration are most of the ones which fought the Battle of Vienna 1683 (except, ironically I suppose, Austria). The Poles, Czechs, and Hungarians seem to want no part of the mass immigration.
I was in Prague and Vienna last March (2019) - Prague had very few muslims that I could see. I can't say Vienna was over-run by them, but I did see quite a few.
- Martin L • a year agosee more
Why didnt they film Europe is dying this Genoa Italy? instead of some small location above Florence if you want to see Europe dying here from At the beginning of 2011, there were 608,493 people residing in Genoa,
of whom 47% were male and 53% were female. The city is characterised by rapid aging and a long history of demographic decline, that has shown a partial slowdown in the last decade. Genoa has the lowest birth rate and
is the most aged of any large Italian city. Minors (children ages 18and younger) totalled only 14.12% of the population compared to pensioners who number 26.67%. This compares with the Italian average of
18.06% (minors) and 19.94% (pensioners). The median age of Genoa's residents is 47, compared to the Italian average of 42. The current birth rate of the city is only 7.49 births per 1,000 inhabitants, ( at this rate it will be an empty city within 50 or less years ) compared to the national average of 9.45. As of 2006,94.23% of the population was Italian but overwhelmed with immigrants! The largest immigrant group is from the Americas (mostly Ecuador): 2.76%, other European nations (mostly Albania, Ukraine, the former Yugoslavia and Romania): 1.37%, and North Africa: 0.62%
“This is a place for old people,” said Francesco Lotti, 24, strolling with
his fiancée in Genoa’s medieval old town. “Just look around. You don’t
see young people.”Even for people of his age, “there are not many places — no clubs, for
example.” Playgrounds? He looked quizzically at his fiancée. They can
count them on a few fingers.While
all of Europe has suffered from declining birthrates, nowhere has the
drop been as profound and prolonged as in this once gorgeous
Mediterranean city, the capital of Italy’s graying Liguria region. Genoa
provides a vision of Europe’s aging future, displaying the challenges
that face a society with more old than young, and suggesting how hard it
will be to reverse the downward population spiral. ( impossible mathematically without immigration )
Children
are no longer playing in the streets here, nor are there many
family-friendly restaurants. Schools have closed for lack of students.
Hospitals are overburdened with the elderly. Medical costs are straining
the government. Furthermore, the fewer the children in a society, the
fewer there are likely to be in the future.
Low birthrates in Italy began almost three decades ago, around the time
women’s liberation took off here. The figures are startling: A quarter
of women in Italy now have no children, and another quarter stop at one( Men dont want to marry feminist women and women dont want to have children)
Europe is already dying and its not from the outside but within, I live in a predominately elderly suburb the average age is over 65 who do you think drives the busses, to take them to the healthcare station to get their diapers changed by whom? Its Immigrants, who collects my trash and works in sanitation yes its immigrants beats living in Naples!
If you get bored with that take a look at some "Drive around Naples YouTube videos" Theres no one there to even collect the trash, the city, parks and streets look like a public landfill dumps garbage piled high everywhere you go because theres almost no immigrant labor and Mafia corruption and thats all the fault of the "Muslims" as usual they caused all this feminism, hedonism, stopped people from breeding, and are causing people to live to long, and taking all the important high paying jobs !!!!!!!!!!
And yes Britain has been a peaceful country for 200 years colonizing the world!
- K • a year ago
"Britain has no apologies to make.......no reason to feel guilty.....the British colony was a transfer of human capital". Not sure people from former colonies would agree with that. Genocide, slavery etc....just some of the great benefits of being colonised by the British. Wow, quite the ignorant interviewer you got there......quoting a Churchill movie as some type of insight says it all. PS Churchill has a VEY dubious history prior to the war.....
- goatally_ewesome • a year ago
The death of Europe isn't actually strange at all, it's very simple. European culture was built by Christianity. To be more specific, Catholicism. Nature abhors a void. Remove Christianity and the void will be filled by something else. People need to believe in something. Without something to believe in people go mad. So having removed the foundation of our culture people are going mad and floundering around looking for something to believe in. And somehow Christianity (solid traditional Christianity) has been airbrushed out of the collective consciousness. There is a lot of ignorance about what Christianity really is. So what is pouring in to fill the void? The two big ones are Marxism and Islam. Seriously, neither of these compares well with Christianity....but people seem blind to the obvious. The question was asked...is Islam better than decadence? So what do we think about male polygamy for example? Why is no-one asking is Christianity better than decadence? Communist Russia's education system was good? Russia was also pretty good at making dissenters disappear! And communism failed and Russia has now returned to its Orthodox roots. If you chop off the roots the tree will die....and that is what we have done and now we are surprised that our society is like dead leaves blowing in the wind? Somehow I'm not really holding my breath expecting a huge return to Christianity....not in England. Some do....but it's probably not enough. Our Lady of Victories, pray for us.
- jvermeer51 • a year ago
Several years ago, the Japanese Ministry of Education floated the idea that their universities terminate the humanities and social science departments. As these are the departments that generate the poison effecting the culture, I find that a good idea. If the question is whether we are better off with no humanities education or what we have now, I think the answer is obvious. The public has no obligation to support the clique which runs those departments as a feudal satraps and which has nothing but contempt for those who are forced to fund their existence.
- pete1589 • a year agosee more
The 800 ton gorilla sitting there in your living rooms is the devil and his trillions of minions unleashed from abortion and birth control. Since the early 60's, we have been spoon fed the satanic line of instant gratification, sex, drugs and rock 'n roll. The onset of Vatican II by Pope John XXIII was polluted by hordes of freemasons, homosexuals and communist agents posing as legitimate bishops and Magisterium. Pope Paul VI was murdered and an imposter with bad plastic surgery took his place.
Previous to all this was the appearance of the Blessed Mother in a place high in the Alps called La Salette. On Saturday afternoon, September 19, 1846, two children– Maximin Guiraud (age 11) and Melanie Calvat (age 14)– were tending sheep for their employers near La Salette in the French Alps. The effects of the French Revolution which had terrorized the Church, the blood spilt during the reign of Napoleon, the increasing secularization of social thought, and the rising political turmoil enveloping Europe had taken a serious toll on the faith of the people. In the parish of La Salette, fewer and fewer people attended Mass and the sacraments were neglected. Cursing had overtaken praying; licentiousness, purity; and greed and self-indulgence, piety and sacrifice.
Melanie, one of eight children, came from a poor family and began working at age seven. She had no schooling, knew only bits of the Catechism, infrequently attended Mass, and could hardly recite the Our Father or the Hail Mary. Similarly, Maximin, whose mother had died and who did not like his stepmother, had little religious education and no schooling.
While they were tending their sheep, they saw a brilliant light, brighter than the sun. As they approached, they noticed a “Beautiful Lady” seated on a rock and crying, with her face in her hands. In tears, she stood and spoke to them in their local French dialect. She wore a headdress topped by a lucent crown with a band of roses, a dress with beams of light, and slippers edged with roses. Around her neck hung a golden crucifix: on one end of the cross beam was a hammer and nails, and on the other, a pincher. Over her shoulders was a heavy chain.
She said, “Come to me, my children. Do not be afraid. I am here to tell something of the greatest importance.” She continued, “If my people will not obey, I shall be compelled to loose my Son’s arm. It is so heavy, so pressing that I can no longer restrain it. How long I have suffered for you! If my Son is not to cast you off, I am obliged to entreat Him without ceasing. But you take not the least notice of that. No matter how well you pray in the future, no matter how well you act, you will never be able to make up to me what I have endured for your sake.
I have appointed you six days for working. The seventh I have reserved for myself. And no one will give it to me. This it is which causes the weight of my Son’s arm to be crushing. The cart drivers cannot swear without bringing in my Son’s name. These are the two things which make my Son’s arms so burdensome.
If the harvest is spoiled, it is your own fault. I warned you last year by means of the potatoes. You paid no heed. Quite the reverse, when you discovered that the potatoes had rotted, you swore, you abused my Son’s name. They will continue to rot, and by Christmas this year there will be none left.
If you have grain, it will do no good to sow it, for what you sow the beasts will devour, and any part of it that springs up will crumble into dust when you thresh it.
A great famine is coming. But before that happens, the children under seven years of age will be seized with trembling and die in their parent’s arms. The grownups will pay for their sins by hunger. The grapes will rot, and the walnuts will turn bad.”
Truly a sobering message! Then Our Lady said, “If people are converted, the rocks will become piles of wheat, and it will be found that the potatoes have sown themselves.” She then asked the children, “Do you say your prayers well, my children?” “No, we hardly say them at all,” they mumbled. “Ah, my children, it is very important to say them, at night and in the morning. When you don’t have time, at least say an Our Father and a Hail Mary. And when you can, say more.”
Our Lady then returned to her chastisement of the people: “Only a few rather old women go to Mass in the Summer. All the rest work every Sunday throughout the Summer. And in Winter, when they don’t know what to do with themselves, they go to Mass only to poke fun at religion. During Lent they flock to the butcher shops, like dogs.” She concluded saying, “My children, you will make this known to all my people.” She then walked away, up a steep path, and disappeared in a bright light.
Next, exactly 33 years to the day prior to the great Miracle of the Sun in Fatima, that is, on October 13, 1884, Pope Leo XIII had a remarkable vision. When the aged Pontiff had finished celebrating Mass in his private Vatican Chapel, attended by a few Cardinals and members of the Vatican staff, he suddenly stopped at the foot of the altar. He stood there for about 10 minutes, as if in a trance, his face ashen white. Then, going immediately from the Chapel to his office, he composed the prayer to St. Michael, with instructions it be said after all Low Masses everywhere. When asked what had happened, he explained that, as he was about to leave the foot of the altar, he suddenly heard voices - two voices, one kind and gentle, the other guttural and harsh. They seemed to come from near the tabernacle. As he listened, he heard the following conversation:
The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord:"I can destroy your Church."
The gentle voice of Our Lord:"You can? Then go ahead and do so."
Satan:"To do so, I need more time and more power."
Our Lord:"How much time? How much power?"
Satan:"75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service."
Our Lord:"You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will."33 years later TO THE DAY, the Miracle of the Sun takes place in Fatima:
https://www.ewtn.com/fatima...
59 years later, Pope John XXIII convokes Vatican II. Its fruits are an immediate crisis in Faith, an immediate crisis in vocations, the priesthood becomes ground zero for pedophiles parading as priests, driving millions away from the Faith, and numerous religious orders disappear from a lack of candidates, as sex, drugs and rock 'n roll seduce the unwitting, uncatechized and worldly humans desperate for security in this life and failing to consider what lies ahead in eternity.
St. Padre Pio, a Capuchin monk who died in 1968, and who had the stigmata from Christ and could read hearts in confession, said that if the demons infesting the world had corporeal bodies they would blot out the sky.
Pope Paul VI, before his murder, complained, "From what fissure has the smoke of satan entered into the Holy Temple of God?"
Gloria Polo, a Colombian dentist, was struck by lightning and killed because of her abortions. As she plummeted toward Hell, the prayers of her saintly deceased mother and a local farmer who had had his entire family killed by communist guerrillas, caused the Lord to send St. Michael to catch her before she was damned forever. Allowing her soul to dangle over the precipice and the worms of conscience to torture her, St. Michael then took her to Christ for her Judgment.
Christ showed her something curious and horrifying. At every abortion, an arena of demons watches, waiting for the innocent blood to be spilled. As soon as that happens, something like a seal on the face of the earth opens and millions of demons are unleashed to plague us.
That means, in addition to those sufficient to blot out the sky in 1968, there are now trillions more demons infesting the earth.
The last Fatima visionary, Sr. Lucia dos Santos, told Cardinal Caffarra that satan's FINAL BATTLE (note this!!), is against matrimony and the family. Hence, we have fornication and shacking up, birth control and abortion, homosexual "marriage" and animal sex, over 60 million abortions, and a witless worldly population breaking up marriages and destroying the faith of children who are helpless in understanding the spiritual warfare now entering its final stages.
If the political chaos in the USA confuses you, the wholesale abdication of the family with MGTOW and Feminist control of the courts, and the hypersaturation of Muslims outbreeding the west by a factor of 36 to 1, then look to the complete disintegration of the Catholic Church to be the fundamental cause of it all.
Life is spiritual warfare, and no one knows how to fight. PRAY THE ROSARY.
- Gib74 • a year ago
Gay pacifists believe that there is NO hope for the rest of the world.
The rest of us believe otherwise.
- John Smithwick Gib74 • a year ago
Yeah. While I appreciate Douglas Murray's efforts to wake our folk, many of us were always awake, and his next great achievement could be to relearn the beauty of women, ... have and raise a family.
- Gib74 • a year ago
It is NOT impossible to save Europe.
BUT
The mooslims, "migrants", and politicians will NOT be happy on how it is saved.
- Mo • a year ago
I don't know why anyone - especially secularists - would be shocked at the current insanity going on in the culture today. What did they think would happen when the nonsense of "everyone has their own truth" took hold?
All of this is what happens when you abandon the biblical worldview & principles that shaped the West!
- Craig • a year ago
Weinstein was part of the problem. He cultivated Progressivism, and they are cannibals. He got burned by the fire he stoked.
- Craig • a year ago
Yes, all the adults left the room. The problem is that feelings, compassion, empathy have been exalted as THE means to thinking. And the offensive truth, is subordinated to the nonsense, above. We need to fight, aggressively, with objective reality and espouse offending people again, in the interest of free speech, and free thinking. The best antidote is Ayn Rand.
- casaJB • a year ago
Kalergi Plan. Lie(s) of WWII and everything associated. Cryptos. Lies and propaganda. To what end? [censored]
- Paper Tiger Shredder • a year ago • edited
Let me start off by saying I hate Erdogan, but the video starts off with a massivelie. Claims that EU pays "Erdogan" to keep the refugees. Like Erdogan is getting personally paid. But the reality is that neither Erdogan or the Turkish government gets a penny from EU for that. The EU directly pays European NGO's in Turkey who in turn use the money to help Syrians in Turkey.
Europe so far has only sent 3 billion in aid (of the promised 6) to these NGO's and programs. Turkey in 2015 alone spend 50 BILLION dollars on the same refugees .. So the idea that Europe is paying Turkey off is absolutely ridiculous. Europe doesn't even provide a drop in the bucket
- CrossWare • a year ago
The Globalists want to keep Islam for sure. If you think about it, it is the perfect control for the masses. While Christianity lost its teeth as societal control (it was not as aggressive to begin with as Islam), the cult of Islam stayed unchanged and their members just as happily beating to pulp anybody from their own group, who accidentally born with more brains than them... for 1400 years, without any change. For the Globalists this is an extra advantage, they will not need to keep an expensive and dangerous army or police force. (dangerous because they can bite their master's hand and took over). Islam is cheap, reliable for the new "consumer" society. The technology will be maintained by the new progressive leftist cast... Purple-haired, safe-space loving, multi-gendered wussy transvestites will be kept in line with some muslim muscle, while muslims will be held back with remote controlled drones and other advanced weaponry. Dissenters from either group will be at the mercy of the others, with no possibility to mount any cooperation across the society. This will be the "bright new world" in the style of the Hunger Games and Elysium.
- John Wallton • a year ago
maybe when the power goes out
****(weakening magnetic field or Capt. Trips)****
a diverse gene pool will save human kind - Cranberry Dad • a year ago
Capitalism concentrates wealth in the hands of very few.
People pursue the resources needed to live. Simple.
- Nashvillain Cranberry Dad • a year ago
Capitalism has lifted countless millions out of poverty. Stop with the greed.
- can't we all get along Cranberry Dad • a year ago
Only Capitalism creates wealth. Socialism and Communism spends the wealth that Capitalism creates.
- Inigo Florin • a year ago • edited
There are a lot of threads in this conversation - some Mr. Murray is right about and some he's dead wrong about. The one thread I want to pick up is British atrocities in India. Obviously the Indians didn't invite the Brits. They starved 33 million people to death in various famines, didn't allow for Indian institutions or culture to flourish. They happened to be at the right time and place to get control over India at its weakest moment as the Hindu kings were fighting Islamic occupiers (Moghuls). During British occupation, India's agricultural/manufacturing output fell from 27% of the world's to 2%.
They moved cotton, minerals out of India to enrich growing industries in Manchester and elsewhere in England.
The British empire's atrocities in Africa and Ireland are at another level!https://www.nybooks.com/dai...
The situation with Indian immigration to UK is quite a bit different from refugees from Islamic countries. The Indian immigration is skills based. They contribute to the British economy and they assimilate quite well. You don't see Indians protesting in the streets against liberalism or wanting sharia or wear hijab. In fact, the incomes of British Indians is a lot higher than that of the natives. So they have net positive impact on the economy.
- itsyaboigiraffarig Inigo Florin • a year ago
Race matters. People are waking up to people with your foolish ideologies. Europeans deserve a home, and that the Ethnically European, not these imports who will never be European by blood.
- name itsyaboigiraffarig • a year ago
Europe is a continent what does European people mean does it mean people assimilated into the culture or is there a genetic thing that makes people European (hint there isnt) so just say you hate brown people and (probably jews to) and actually admit your beliefs and then people can have a productive conversation with you
- itsyaboigiraffarig name • a year ago
Way to oversimplify the issue. There are tons of ways to categorize race. It can be as simple as four races or as complex as hundreds. To deny the existence or cultural heritage of the European people is anti-white. If whites were flooding Africa, you'd be on the African's side, saying "This is genocide!" just admit you hate white people, then we can have a productive conversation.
- Paul Dan Inigo Florin • a year ago
If so, where is the guilt of todays brits ? If your grandpa killed my grandpa will you let me kill you for it ? Anyway, all non-europeans must go home. Europe is not their home.
- SowshulMedia • a year ago
Quite simply put: if immigrants to the EU or UK adopt the culture of their new home, then I submit all is well. I don't care if you are white, brown, black, yellow or green ... if you adopt a liberal and open democracy with all the freedoms that entails, then I accept you as my brother or sister.
It is when the immigrant to the new land insists in converting the culture to their old (dysfunctional) way of life that the system fragments and declines.
Assimilate and be GRATEFUL, then we will all get along. - Edward • a year ago
This conversation has a myopic quality. Look to the global south. Lagos, Mexico City. Even Santiago, Chile as a case of seeing vast concentrations of migrants in decades. Look to Near East and Asia. Beirut. Singapore. Hong Kong. Taiwan. Japan. You don't need to make too much effort to see massive influxes to the cities from the countrysides, and massive influxes of migrants to wealthier or more stable neighbouring nations. To say this is a US or European phenomenon is ignorant of wider worldwide trends. And to the Americans who comment against immigrants who don't learn English — 1. in the grand majority of the southwest and western states, English wasn't widely spoken 100 years ago except by European settlers. It's only since the 40's that it's imposed through schooling in New Mexico and Arizona. Those lands were stolen from Mexico, who stole it from native peoples. What myths are we so easily accepting?
- Steve Lim • a year ago
The articulate peddling of fear and pining for good old colonial days on full unabashed display here as only an eloquent, stiff upper lip notwithstanding, Englishman living in another country can
- crystlefire68 • a year ago
Merkel and the EU has truly done silently what Hitler could not do. She destroyed Europe in 5 years by just allowing millions and millions of muslims and migrants to over run Europe while paying their way! Muslims and migrants are known to have ten or more children at any time while the whites of Europe had one to two children at the most. Muslims did say that they will take over the world from WITHIN. They weren't strong enough to do it from the outside so used their Trojan Horse. They made the LEFTIST Europeans feel extremely GUILTY about NOT helping them. The war in Syria has been going on for centuries so WHY NOW did millions have to leave their own country and WHY did millions of MIGRANTS have to piggy back unto those "refugees". TO DESTROY EUROPE THAT IS WHY. THIS IS THE GLOBALISTS DOING THIS. THEY ARE TRYING THE SAME IN THE USA WITH OUR BORDERS. THEY ARE TRYING TO DESTROY OUR BORDERS SO MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF UNEDUCATED POOR PEOPLE WILL RUN ACROSS OUR BORDERS AND DESTROY THIS COUNTRY LIKE THEY DESTROYED EUROPE!! THANK GOD TRUMP was elected!
- Joseph A. Lopisi, Esq. • a year ago
I agree with his conclusions but how is it that Mr. Murray and the interviewer still believe the official historical narratives of WWII, the Holocaust, Churchill etc . He needs to read “ The Myth of German Villainy by Benton Bradberry (get on GooglePlay); The Nameless War by Archibald Ramsay, Behind Communism by Frank L. Britton, The Holocaust Hoax by Victor Thorn. And much much more like David Irving’s Hitler’s War and Churchill’s War.
- Joshua P • a year ago
Interesting that England was OK with the riches and plunder they derived from ruling India and Pakistan one hundred years ago, but not so happy with their former subjects coming to live next door to them... this fight, by conservatives, against the eventuality of a global community is puzzling to me, i guess it gives them something to write about and sell books. I think their efforts would be better spent ensuring the benefits of this mixing is maximized by their country as much as possible, vs. fighting it all together. Thankfully, that is what the actual political leaders, out of the headlines are doing.
- Magma Lava • 28 minutes ago
Thanks a lot for this video: YES, we confirm that we're witnessing the DEATH of Europe, planned by its leaders, for "some reason" difficult to explain...
- Linda Jevahirian • 8 days ago • edited
his closing comment is the key. just be thankful for what we have. this is where the gap lies. my best model was my poor grandmother who lived thru the depression .... not my rich uncle who wanted for nothing. the newer generations have been cheated out of the right exposure. their judgment is skewed. it is not their fault.
- Lukan • 17 days ago
I disagree when it comes to Germany. I don't see they feel guilty for
the 2nd World War. They killed 6 million people in Poland during that time and
they robbed the country and the do not want to repair this.Concerning A. Merkel I remember her saying in 2015 that Germany needs about 1 million
employees till the end of that year so it looked like it was the economic
reason.Another one expressed during next years by her, by a German Foreign Minister and also by
Macron and J.C. Juncker was the wish that in near future there won't be any
country in Europe which is not mixed in terms of culture, colour and race. Why
like that?The answer to this seems obvious - Germany wants to rule the whole continent. They want to
federalize Europe first and perhaps build one super country at the end. The
strong societies with individual culture, history, religion are obstacles on that way.
That is why they try to break countries like Poland or Hungary. - Nancy Davis • a month ago
No need to explain to American audience as we are experiencing this in our country right now.
- Leiduowen • a month ago
13:15 "Britain has no apologies to make, no reason to feel guilty(sic!)... they were not impoverishing the people of India..." If you guys want to be taken seriously, you have to take some history classes since this is such a blatant lie that even in Europe you would, at best, be laughed at and, at worst, get abused. And don't present this view to any educated Indian for you might end up in a big trouble. (I purposely use this type of argumentation since we are living in the post-truth era where every statement is relativized and conditioned.) The famines, the not-so-peaceful division of the Subcontinent, the Amritsar massacre etc. etc. are well-known events orchestrated by the Brits that led to millions of deaths in India. When you look elsewhere, did you know that concentration camps were also a British invention? Then you have the Irish famine, Opium Wars and their aftermath, atrocities in Kenya, the role in the American slave trade and so on and so forth. Seriously, educate yourself before conducting an interview, e.g. https://www.independent.co.... The "Evil Empire" moniker may, ultimately, not be quite unfounded.
- Phil Farthing • 2 months ago
Murray is so exceptionally well spoken. He's so right about losing national identity and how lucky we are in this time of history to have to much, art, literature, music, science, so many cultures that we can share in, and a world in which millions have been pulled up out of poverty in such a short span of time.
It would be a shame if we just threw it all away for nothing ...nothing but the promise of a government hand out and never having to grow up.
- Alex • 2 months ago
The underlying currents of the process are clear enough. The situation as it looks can drive one into despair as it all looks as no one is neither able nor even willing to organise the nation to respond to the crisis. Politicians are self serving and lack motivation and ability. Even worse, the state system which was suppose to act is totally disorganized and ineffective. Nonetheless, something has to be done about it. I don't think all is already lost (at least I'd like to think it isn't). People like Douglas have to be in the Parliament working hard on changing the freaking legislation that would allow to solve some of the problems. No doubt, it should have been done at least some 20 years back when that silly populist Tony Blair allowed the situation to slide down to the current crisis, but some basic changes in the law would allow to stop the inflow of strangers into your home or at least to greatly reduce it.
- JimmyDell • 2 months ago
My father, may he R.I.P., Told me many years ago," You can get used to
anything. You can even get used to hanging if you just hang long enough." I was born in 1944, and cannot recognize the world in which I grew up. I say to Douglas Murray and paraphrase Bill Clinton,"I feel your pain." However if we can't change it, explaining why it occurred doesn't relieve the pain. - uryea • 3 months ago
How much money did you pay for keeping Syrians at the buffer zone called Turkey?
- johnlane35 • 3 months ago
Great discussion, Douglas Murray is always good but Paul Robinson bought more out of him than most. Next to the Australian, John Anderson whose discussions are Gold. Paul Robinson is my favourite.
- Gerry C. Cruz • 3 months ago
I was surprised Murray's disposition of gratefulness was the same as mine all along.
- Klaus Zinser • 3 months ago
Currently there is a Consultation of the European Unions EU Commission
https://ec.europa.eu/info/l...
It was hidden and got public a few days ago. - Reszet Elek • 3 months ago
Do you mean Death of Western Europe? The usual Western European arrogance. Only 15 years and you'll become migrants and try escape to Central Europe.
- Raymond Everitt • 3 months ago
So what? Do we, the human species, not want to be a mixed species as we already are? You seem to be wrongly (in my view) patriotic. Well you are wrong, my friend. What we should become is a totally mixed species (which we are already) thereby becoming more aware of others.We have too much adrenaline, and a frontal lobal too small, to quote Christopher Hitchens, or somebody. I do like your thoughts , normally! Ray
- jim Parr • 3 months ago
What seems to be wrong is not the recognition of tiredness by nations, but the obvious yearning for inclusiveness/cohesiveness - GLOBAL.
A single governing entity would be very nice but likely only in our future. The single and most potent means for achieving a new purpose for all humans on our planet is a single, lofty goal to aspire to. J.F, Kennedy showed us how. Unfortunately so did Hitler in a very nasty way.
Why do we squabble when we can talk?
Answer - because we cannot talk constructively unless we all get behind a common purpose or goal.Maybe I am naive. But I DO live in hope that sanity will prevail over economic and political power,
- James Anfield • 4 months ago • edited
Douglas Murray is a genius but he has missed the most essential part of his analysis. Men are naturally the protectors, providers and decision makers. When any society feels completely safe and has abundance then the protector and provider role is no longer there and so a woman's status as mother and nurturer becomes higher status and women then make the decisions. Every western society that has fallen into this madness has become massively more feminised especially in the last 50 years and so the inherent values of women become the driving factor of the society. Namely: to identify the vulnerable and to put their feelings and welfare above all else. All of our identity politics is a ritualistic obsession with finding those considered vulnerable and placing their feelings and welfare above everyone else in society (hence the phenomenon of the straight white male being the lowest position in our societies now) Because our peoples feel they have no need of protection or provision and the straight white male is the only one that never can view themselves as a victim and vulnerable in our societies.
It is no accident that it was Angela Merkel who turned this general trend into a complete flood. Here is a woman who believes she has the responsibility of a continent on her shoulders, looking for the biggest possible vulnerable groups and putting their feelings and welfare above everything else, even if that means the harm of ourselves.
It is also no accident that Poland and Hungary are the only countries in Europe that have wholesale ejected migrants and set up guarded borders to stop the flow no matter what. Both countries ruled by very typically masculine men, father figures really, same with Putin in Russia.What is happening in western Europe can be summed up in the words of the persian conquerors of Athens. (the greeks were easily conquered. Because over the centuries they had become weak and lazy and ruled by their women)
Merkel is exactly like the little girl who wants her parents to take in every homeless person and stray dog she sees but, instead of the fathers making sure that doesn't happen and putting their foot down. She in now in charge and is rapidly killing the entire continent which was already going this way with it's own manifestation of this phenomenon.
- Guy Moran • 4 months ago • edited
england is definitly to blame. 100%.
yes, they don't share the blame of germany and the allies of germany , but they were practiclly a socialist country till thacher.
a british mp says that the world is not making strides on pollution because of israel.
you have politicized and internalized the communist age of anti israeli geopolitics. the kind that enabled the plo and other such terror groups to become a recognized entity.
you became what lenin called "usefull fools".
now you're trapped by it.
if you want to fight islam you have to be pro israel 100%, and you have to be anti communist and it's derivatives 100%.
antifa is a terror group that was founded with stalin's inspiration.
why is not outlawed ?
the un human rights council is a joke, why is it allowed to continue ?
because of europe guilt and european complicity with the soviet communism. - Myles O'Howe • 4 months ago • edited
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- John bo • 4 months ago
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- witenitenz • 4 months ago
An excellent discussion, but one question that was raised several times, was why and how this all started. The short answer there is cold war era Soviet subversion. Communist Russia (former USSR) had the ambition of destabilising the West, and what they could not take by force they have slowly destroyed through cancerous propaganda tactics. KGB (now SFB) agents were/are trained in the art of subversion, which essentially means you infiltrate education, government, military even churches, and then start spreading lies and deceit within those organisations. IE you subvert or overcome your enemy through subversive tactics. This has been going on since the 60's, and although the USSR ultimately collapsed under the weight of their own idiotic ideology, their cancerous seed had been planted and has grown ever since. It has also been allowed to perpetuate over the decades through complacent governments who (as mentioned in this conversation) simply passed the buck to the next succession in government.
There was a former KGB agent who defected to the West in the 70's (Yuri Bezmenov) who under the threat of death provided a very revealing testimonial in this regard. In fact the speeches he gave in the early 80' and the consequences thereof bare a striking resemblance to exactly what we see today. I suspect too that modern day Communist China has picked up the torch to continue the work of the former USSR in this regard too. Unless we face some hard truths in the West, and very soon, we are going to lose our countries and with it out culture in very short order.
My thanks to the Hoover Institution for being a beacon of light in the World today. Reason and evidence should always be our resort, as opposed to the clownish activities we see in mainstream media today. Philosophers and people who strive to use logic and sound evidence are in short supply and in fact are openly persecuted by the liberal left (Stefan Molyneux for example, who is an exceptional philosopher was recently banned from Youtube, though fortunately he runs his own website callled FreeDomain.com. He was also banned from entering New Zealand about a year ago, in an effort to suppress his point of view being expressed here (I live in New Zealand, that has also bowed to socialism and is rapidly headed towards becoming a communist state)
- cosmo pessoa • 4 months ago
Why are you so concerned about people moving to europe. Europeans set the tone and inclination regarding , being dissatisfied with their own home , move into someone else's. Reciprocity
- Yusuf Ahmed • 5 months ago
I wanted to correct the interviewer regarding the British colonial empire. It is one of the most horrific episodes of recent history that ever happened in numerous places specifically but not limited to the Caribbean, East Africa, South Africa and the Indian Subcontinent. I would say the British public at large does not suffer from guilt but the exact opposite. There is largely feelings of denial, ignorance and sanitization (not to mention "White"washing) of the British Colonial experience which was without question the worst episode of recent history in the Indian subcontinent. Figures like the very infamous Churchill who had similar views as Hitler regarding non-white subjects are ignored and he is widely celebrated. I suggest the viewers read Shashi Tharoors Book "Inglorious Empire" regarding the slavery, loot, genocide, subjugation, and racism that Indians suffered through during this empire. In fact even the most ardent anti Muslim bigots will accept that the Muslim rulers were much better for the Indian Subcontinent than the British.
- Yusuf Ahmed • 5 months ago
I wanted to correct the interviewer regarding the British colonial empire. It is one of the most horrific episodes of recent history that ever happened in numerous places specifically but not limited to the Caribbean, East Africa, South Africa and the Indian Subcontinent. I would say the British public at large does not suffer from guilt but the exact opposite. There is largely feelings of denial, ignorance and sanitization (not to mention "White"washing) of the British Colonial experience which was without question the worst episode of recent history in the Indian subcontinent. Figures like the very infamous Churchill who had similar views as Hitler regarding non-white subjects are ignored and he is widely celebrated. I suggest the viewers read Shashi Tharoors Book "Inglorious Empire" regarding the slavery, loot, genocide, subjugation, and racism that Indians suffered through during this empire. In fact even the most ardent anti Muslim bigots will accept that the Muslim rulers were much better for the Indian Subcontinent than the British.
- Mr C • 5 months ago
A homosexual whinging about the low European birthrate meaning that Europeans will be out bred.
Hmm.
- Eva Porras • 5 months ago
I believe what the book author describes is pretty much an experience common to citizens in multiple countries, including mine which is Spain. I think it is an attempt to rob people of their culture and ethics to leave them defenseless in the face of choice. You have to chose what they tell you is right.
- Maureen Joan Elsden • 5 months ago
My comment is on Peter Robinson's mention of Malcolm Muggeridge. Malcolm Muggeridge used what I wrote to him about myself, in 1968, to set himself up as a Jesus Rediscovered Christian and later as a Roman Catholic, while being worse than rudely dismissive of me. I had seen him, as a journalist and broadcaster, take a slight interest in Mother Teresa and Lourdes, while blaming an absence of anything going on in England for his own lack of religion. I only wrote to him because I could have done with some interest being taken in me and some assistance. I had no interest in him and thought nothing of him, and I made a mistake in ever writing to him.
- David White • 5 months ago
"It was a celebration of people breaking into their country instead of trying to break out". What absolute garbage.People from all over the world have been tying to get in to Germany for decades. A far better standard of living than the UK, the only reason people pour into the UK is that Blair and the EU made it so easy to get in and get government (taxpayers) money.
- ali hussain • 5 months ago • edited
Douglas is not incorrect, the data is there. I do however get this overarching sense of karma that has befallen Europe. For centuries Europe colonised the world and now Europe has been colonised principally by civilians of it's former colonies. The degree of pillage that took place in the likes of India has been articulated vividly by Shashi Tharoor and others. I think it is also appropriate to mention the contribution that immigration has brought forth, from culinary, sporting, musical, sexual and artistic. In addition, it is not the fault of the 3rd world that Britain, France and others were beset by depleted workforces having fought 2 World Wars. Bringing in migrant labour was not a grand gesture of goodwill, or altruism, it was a business transaction. The goal posts, as he rightly points out were subject to change, however that has been due in large part to corporate subservience rather than Governmental policy formulation. Corporations have long been in favour of mass immigration, it ushers in wage compression, it increases the size of the domestic market, and it helps prop up and increase property prices. There is nothing about it that the corporates do not like. As for Muslim immigration, at a time where the welfare state (most of Europe is comprised of welfare states) and the economic model that it relies upon is essentially new tax payers to fund the sick, disable and elderly is at a real danger of falling apart. People have stopped having children, There doesn't appear to very much in the way of a fix other than immigration. And who do you bring in? Afro Caribbeans do not have the best track record of either staying out of jail, or within the institution of marriage. Whomever they impregnate are likely to claim "single parent benefits" footed for by the State. Far Easterners that leave tropical climbs only to wait at European bus stops at 5am with the sort of wind that bites your face are unlikely to have very many children either. It is only the Muslims that will come into the squalor of Europe in public housing and still have low enough standards to bring children into that equation, in a 2-parent house. There is a lot of colour (forgive the pun) that has been conveniently left out in order to make this tear-jerking, pathos evoking sob story that Douglas is telling. He's made a living out of it, while inadvertently (if you're inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt) ratcheting up racial and inter-communual tensions. Let's also take a moment to mention European foreign policy, seeing as there is such despair at the mention of asylum seekers and fugitives of war. Here's a great idea, perhaps avoid invading/bpmbing other nations, you do not have the money for it, debt to GDP levels tend to exceed 100% across the Western world. You will not have the burden of refugees from Afghanistan and Syria if you could very kindly stop bombing them, killing their people and destroying economies, whilst being extra kind at siphoning off more money from domestic tax payers to pay forward in foreign aid.
- Vanessa Fick Nortman • 5 months ago
I'm a South African, the "Rainbow Nation" as it
has been labled.. South Africa is very tribal and devided by these lines except at the office or workplace. We, for the most part, work well where the office culture is healthy, inclusive and bqced on best practices. Even with Black Equity and Empowerment, and all the corruption from the ANC gocernment, we all co-exist. I must say that narative of political parties here as well as the mainstream media, does make it hard for our tollerance to thrice as we woyld like. They push us together then tear us appart the evry next day. This discussion is Very eye opening and scary..dont know why its scary..think its because I see the coming of the end times around me. The one world one race one language one sex....It means the end of cultures and identities all around the world...and that is not a world I think will be interesting or free. No expression of self no like mindedness... art... the beauty of humankind ...all ...Gone - Kenleik • 5 months ago • edited
The liberals of today are becoming increasingly self hating and it is geting close to suicidal in a polictical sense. Africa are doing nothing as a whole to stop their massive overpopulation. So the result will surely be much more migrants swarming Europe. This will either lead to total muslims - Islamistic states or the native people will have to revolt. It is sad, but right now there are no other option.
The Liberals have infested all the schoold, universities and institutions. They are basically indotrinating kids to believe in all this guilt nonsense, diversity (that only goes one way) and a blindfolded belief in multiculture as a good thing. Our real society death lies in our own democratic systems. As soon as a Islamic party comes into play it wil surely have the power to get elected. And from there it will only go one way.If anyone reading this has any doupt just take a look at all the nonsense that follows BLM movement. What could have been a good thing are always turned into a lie by the liberals! Always! - p fausette • 5 months ago
Very interesting interview. Basically, Nationalism has been turned into another dirty word that is censored so it's not discussed openly for all of it's benefits .Nationalism has the same parallels as Ownership verses Rented. An idea I got from watching this interview is that if you have a country that is very diverse, then you have to have a tyrant to give the mass a collective direction. Part of the population will take direction with the carrot but a stick has to be used with the others. I wish Britain could have stayed in the EU so the larger nations Soft Money could give the whole of Europe a beneficial direction but maybe it will work out better in the end. Britain wants to exploit the fact that you can't walk there from the mainland. lol
- Michael Svoboda • 6 months ago
The Renneisance will come when we realise, that the racist left has always been a product of Immanuel Kant's philosophy. His Copernican switch, intentional switching of Metaphysics and Epistemology, destroys objectivity. Listen to the professors today! "There is no objective reality, it's a concept originated in wHiTenEsS and imposed on the unknowable world". In an unkonwable universe, there is no such thing as rational commucination. The only thing left then is class/race/sex war. If the source of knowledge is the cOmMuNiTy, than all that's left is one herd contra another. Let's finally disavow Kant and embrace Mrs Ayn Rand!
- Zemes Gaoson • 6 months ago
The United States is facing its own existential threats. I recently wrote an article "Wake up, Americans" https://t.co/BjTH9pLCuL?amp=1
Americans are not aware of the real threat this country is now facing. The current events, led by a powerful illusion created by a media zoomed-in distortion effect (intentionally or unintentionally), are a dangerous diversion from answering the real threat. - SONIA • 6 months ago
Douglas Murray is a bit of a simpleton... and an angry one at that. Death of Europe? Please define what you mean by 'Europe'.
- Tina F Stenehjem • 6 months ago
Sure; the western leaders want suicude, but only for the indigenous people.
WW2 and the german guilt was NOT the biggest reason for importing the third world. Germany and the third world has the loathing for jews in common, so of course it's the müslim people Germany wants to work with. //Tina F S - Indian University kid • 6 months ago
Universities are like crazy uncles, who we humor by sending our kids there? Woah, you lost me there bud. You know kids that age, still quite malleable and relatively reasonable, can be expected to give objective reactions to world situations. And if they are overwhelmingly against a particular ideology, perhaps that ideology is outdated?
And probably not so relevant, but that part of England having no reason to go on a guilt-trip like Germany irked me a bit. An island single-handedly destroying a civilization with a third of global population for 200 years has no reason? Haha
On the other side, I do sympathize with the speakers' frustration at dissolving European societies. A little sad when societies begin to loose their character, which I guess that's a byproduct of functioning democracies (+globalized capitalism). Guess which country has resisted this WHILE being successful in modern times - China. Perhaps a lesson there?
- Brian Huggett • 7 months ago • edited
WHY? Why do nations perish?
On a material level nations are great whilst they have moral strength, but decline when morals are lost. The foundation of morals within any society is respect for the rights of others, i.e. freedom for oneself within the boundary of responsibility for the freedom and responsibility of others.
Nations become great when God is the foundation of their worldview; they invariably perish when there is no such vision, for the denial of God leads to a reprobate mind, a mind incapable of true reason.
- Jeff Wilson • 7 months ago
Essentially, the proponents of the demographic change he's talking about believe Britain is becoming multicultural, but successful multiculturalism relies on those who come in adopting the culture/political culture of the stable, positive, liberal society they're moving into. The opponents of this change point to all the no go zones and mosques going up everywhere and think that if it continues Britain will no longer be Britain. It'll be North Africa.
- SJ • 7 months ago
There is a certain level of irony in this conversation given the nature of Europe's (and particularly Britain's) presence overseas.
- Peter Rivest • 8 months ago
I found it really jarring that you would discuss the strange death of Europe without ever mentioning Mark Steyn's "America Alone". You even interviewed him about it. By the way, comments disabled on youtube... bad look.
- D K • 8 months ago
The adults left the room, and the media validated every subjective thing said by inter-sectional "academia" and thus the "cultural immunity to crazy" was lost. Brilliant.
- S Yee • 8 months ago
Thank you for the awesome dialogue! This is also happening in the USA! Watch out everyone! Great author! Thank you, God Bless, E Pluribus Unum
- Steven Deitrich • 9 months ago
Why do people ever allow these power hungry Anti - Establishment types into gov. office ? They are destroying civilized nations . Their cover name of Liberal is false. We as civilians need to take back our government's from them . Build Gallows & use them for the ( liberals )
- cappy3362 • 9 months ago
This interview was thoughtful and informative, and I thank the participants for presenting it. But at the very end, I couldn't help but feel a profound sadness. In the United States where we have the right to defend ourselves with arms, our crisis is going to end with a bang, not a whimper.
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